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This is not your father's Glock | |||
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I wonder if Glock will see a bit of a "Ruger Renaissance" when Gaston goes to the great beyond? Once old man Ruger died Ruger came out punching. Sure they have had recalls and missteps but they have done everything from CCW to evil black rifles to precision guns to everything in between. I wonder if when Gaston goes if there will be a flood of new products/ideas. Take Care, Shoot Safe, Chris | |||
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Sweet. Hope to see this pistol in the 2018 line up for the U.S. I have a PX4 45. Rotating barrel works as advertised. | |||
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How's that gonna work with a suppressor? | |||
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Apparently said RFP doesn't include GSG9, SWAT, secret squirrel suppressed stuff. I don't hold the negative opinion many do on rotating barrels as my Storm has been stellar. That being said I maintain it well and understand it's drawbacks as well. Which is why I am sort of shaking my head at this. Take Care, Shoot Safe, Chris | |||
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Now this is what I would hope for from Glock. Innovation! Though I really wish they'd just make a "dumb yankee" version that had a more conventional grip angle. Then I'd buy. Without hesitation. Maybe it's the magazines, maybe it's just pride in being different, or original. Maybe I just wish I was born later so my first pistol would've been a Glock and I would be okay with breaking my wrists down to shoot. Anyway, about time Glock got back to innovating. I hope it works out! ------------------------------------------------ Charter member of the vast, right-wing conspiracy | |||
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Fascinating subject. Reading up on the matter, from what I gather a rotating barrel accomplishes the same primary function a Browning-style tilt-lock does, but does it differently. First off, it's also a delayed-unlocking system. In the brief time before the barrel is tilting or rotating, chamber pressures have time to drop to safe levels, and the bullet has passed the soon-to-be-off-target muzzle. However, the tilt-barrel goes completely off-line, whilst the rotater rotates but never stops pointing at the target (discounting recoil for the moment). In theory this would support more reproducible lock-up and greater accuracy; in practice, the precision lock-up of modern-manufacture weapons probably makes it a non-issue. (Does it? Here's where we start actual testing.) Second, some felt recoil is diverted as torque. Whether this is a significant amount depends on the specific gun. It's also a question whether the "angular recoil" is problematic for the shooter; maybe it's an individual thing. Third and finally, the design of the rotary action pistol accomodates a lower bore axis (an advantage not under-appreciated by Glock). The top cartridge coming off the magazine is already in line with the chamber, and no extra headroom is needed for a tilting barrel. Interesting reading in any case!This message has been edited. Last edited by: kkina, | |||
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No lower grip cutout in that picture, maybe glock will do away with it very soon due to all the complaints | |||
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After having one with my Gen 2 19 a few months ago, so bad it necessitated having a friend hold the frame of the gun while I cleared the jam, I'm thinking this is a rather exciting development. I'd be interested to see how one shoots. I was impressed with how my friend's PX4 shot, seemed to have a more linear recoil impulse. ______________________________________________ Endeavoring to master the subtle art of the grapefruit spoon. | |||
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Interesting stuff. Glock flexing their design ju-ju: it's about time. Also thought the 6" barreled 75B was pretty neat too. | |||
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Unfortunately, the article does not clearly address what aspects of the German police technical and testing guidelines were previously an issue for Glock.
Regardless, this quote does not bode well.
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Slovakian company Grand Power also makes guns with rotating barrels. I have 3 of their guns, 2 in 9mm and one 10mm. The rotating barrel design does seem to mitigate recoil a bit. The two 9's have been great guns and the 10mm is fine now after have having to send it back for a mag drop issue. I don't know if we will ever see them or not, but I would be very interested in trying a G46. | |||
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Too funny! Interesting read,if this ever hits US soil,cardiac doctor's will see an influx of fanboy patients. | |||
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Target customer is Bavaria as replacement for out of production P7. Which has notably low bore axis, which is a claim for rotating lockup.
If they get the deal, Bavarian cops are a drop in the bucket of American enthusiasts and government agencies worshipping the latest and greatest from the Old World. Hang on til SHOT 2019. | |||
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Here is the checklist for TR/ER "Pistolen" requirements if anyone wants to translate from German to identify which requirements Glock has not met in the past. | |||
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Beretta did this years ago, with the Cougar. I think their Eastern European subsidiary Stoeger still makes it. I've heard good things about it, but it never took off.
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buried somewhere in my safe with the rest of the sig collection oddballs is a Sig Mauser M2 which I think is rotating barrel. I'm pretty sure I bought that in 2004/5?. “So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.” | |||
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I was expecting someone to come along and let us in on the elaborate joke, but I guess this is legitimate. I'd love the chance to fire a G46 side by side with a G19. Whether or not it is ever commercially marketed and offered in the United States, it's an inevitability that at least a few examples will make it to our shores. | |||
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The list of already approved pistols can be found here. https://www.beschussamt-ulm.de...t/index.php?lvl=2284 This new Glock will be a LEO only pistol specially made for upcoming pistol evaluations in Bavaria. If it succeeds it´s going to be a while until it´s available in public. | |||
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Here's my question: If this is the Glock 46, what are the 44 and 45? Does this imply these two models are on the road map somewhere? Or perhaps they're skipping them to avoid confusion, which I find doubtful because they didn't with the 22, 38, or 40. | |||
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