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Ruger you need to make one more semi auto

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April 05, 2019, 05:06 PM
bendable
Ruger you need to make one more semi auto
All you need to round out a very nice selection is a .357 mag in a 1911 please.

thank you in advance

( if anyone has an e-mail addy for flatgate over on the ruger forum,
I'd be interested)

have trouble logging in





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April 05, 2019, 05:18 PM
.38supersig
Thinking that Coonan tried that for a while and it didn't sell as much as they'd hoped. An LAR Grizzly took it a few more notches, but they are kinda spendy.



April 05, 2019, 05:22 PM
bendable
I figured that the 65% of the Ruger fans already have a GP and would just get it , because they made it.





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April 05, 2019, 06:00 PM
RogueJSK
.357 Magnum is a rimmed revolver cartridge. Rimmed cartridges don't tend to play nice with traditional semiauto magazines or traditional semiauto designs.

In addition, .357 Magnum is an overly long cartridge designed for revolver cylinders, so the magazine and corresponding grip of a .357 Magnum semiauto would have to be extra thick front-to-back. (You can't cram .357 Magnum into a standard 9/40/45 semiauto format.)

Despite all that, Coonan Arms produces a quasi-1911 specifically adapted for .357 Magnum, which incorporates a number of modifications in order to be able to handle the rimmed .357 Magnum cartridge. As a result of all the changes needed to work with .357 Magnum, it similar to a 1911, but not a 1911. And it is a pretty slow seller. So I don't see Ruger spending the time and money to get into that extremely niche market anytime soon.

http://www.coonaninc.com/product/357-magnum-classic/



Note the overly thick grip compared to a standard 1911, to accommodate the long .357 Magnum cartridge:




The LAR Grizzly was an earlier attempt from the 1980s at making a quasi-1911 that could handle cartridges like the .357 Magnum. It also has a number of internal changes plus an overly thick grip in order to accomodate the .357 Magnum cartridge, and it too was a slow seller.




A better option in the 1911 platform would be the .357 Sig cartridge, which was created to replicate .357 Magnum performance in a smaller, more semiauto-friendly (and non-rimmed) package. There are some standard 1911s available in .357 Sig.




April 05, 2019, 06:16 PM
Watergoat
Rogue beat me to it. There is a short case, rimless 357 mag - called 357 SIG.
April 05, 2019, 06:47 PM
arfmel
quote:
if anyone has an e-mail addy for flatgate over on the ruger forum,
I'd be interested)


Flatgate passed away early in 2018.
April 05, 2019, 06:48 PM
sigfreund
Just like SIG should make the 10mm P220 and the staggered-column (double stack) 45 ACP P220 that people here clamored about for years and then were such commercial successes after they were actually produced—? Roll Eyes

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April 05, 2019, 06:53 PM
David Lee
The Coonan is a real blaster. You'll need on some ear protection. So will the shooter 3 stations down from you.
April 05, 2019, 07:01 PM
.38supersig
If you are slowly drifting away from the 357 Magnum 1911, consider a double stack 1911 in 10mm. I did. Wink



April 05, 2019, 07:26 PM
bendable
quote:
Originally posted by arfmel:
quote:
if anyone has an e-mail addy for flatgate over on the ruger forum,
I'd be interested)


Flatgate passed away early in 2018.


well that sucks,

I will go look for another person to contact , to help get me in..


Rogue. thanks for the comparison photo





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April 05, 2019, 08:09 PM
bendable
wow! 11 ammo weights in 10mm Eek

I can remember when there were 4, available





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April 05, 2019, 08:30 PM
sigNull
I just wish they had an SR1911 38 Super


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April 05, 2019, 08:32 PM
cas
quote:
Originally posted by bendable:

I will go look for another person to contact , to help get me in..


If by "in" you mean registered for the Ruger forum, there's no signing up at the moment. (or for a while now) Upgrades are in the works however.


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April 05, 2019, 08:34 PM
Paten
My Dad has a Colt 1911 in .38 Special that he had a gunsmith make for him in the '60s when we lived in Hawaii. I guess it used to be a thing. I don't remember him ever shooting it though.

That doesn't really have anything to do with the subject of this thread but it made me think of it. So, there ya go.
April 05, 2019, 08:57 PM
preten2b
Desert Eagles were made in .357. Had one for a while, functioned well, loved the accuracy. However with that small hole in the same barrel blank it was a heavy SOB.


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April 05, 2019, 09:37 PM
sox
My old Colt Gov’t i 9 x 23mm did the trick! 124 gr about 1450 fps smoking and easy to shoot.

I think they should bring the .356 TSW back
April 05, 2019, 09:38 PM
jimmy123x
quote:
Originally posted by bendable:
All you need to round out a very nice selection is a .357 mag in a 1911 please.

thank you in advance

( if anyone has an e-mail addy for flatgate over on the ruger forum,
I'd be interested)

have trouble logging in


They do it's called .38 super. The ballistics are very close between the two cartridges.
April 05, 2019, 09:41 PM
RHINOWSO
No chance homie.
April 05, 2019, 10:46 PM
Ogie
quote:
Originally posted by cas:
quote:
Originally posted by bendable:

I will go look for another person to contact , to help get me in..


If by "in" you mean registered for the Ruger forum, there's no signing up at the moment. (or for a while now) Upgrades are in the works however.


Just curious, which Ruger forum?
April 05, 2019, 11:38 PM
egregore
Per the website, they do make the Standard and Target (all stainless steel, five-inch "Government" length, fixed or adjustable sights, respectively) models in 10mm (but not in .357 SIG). Some loadings of this cartridge can exceed the .357 Magnum. The .357 - a revolver cartridge - itself is a terrible cartridge for a semi-auto that you can still get your fingers around.