Why try to hard to overcharge a round to solve weak ejection, when a reduced power spring would do a better job? Or check the ejector and extractor and solve the problem.

While accidents can happen with any product regardless of manufacturer, it would seem prudent to avoid going with the low budget options when it comes to certain products. Things like, a pacemaker for example. Seems like you might want to invest a few extra bucks and go top of the line when you are shopping for one. I also wouldn’t buy an aftermarket airbag, or a junkyard replacement for your car. I would think that when you are purchasing a product that literally places your hand/face within mere inches of a violent explosion... you’d want to spring for a variety known for quality construction rather than low cost.

Taurus is not a surprising name to hear associated with this incident for some reason. It’s almost as though Brazil is not world famous for high quality manufacturing or something.

I question any day where I’m in full agreement with guppy, but he is right. I’ve never heard of a more ass backward way to solve a problem than what is being described. Ejector and or springs. Home brew an overcharged +P round? That’s friggin dumb as shit.

Lesson, stay away from Taurus. I'll do me.

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Originally posted by 12131:

No, this accident more than likely was caused by a defective Taurus.

But you repeat yourself.

Maybe its not nice to beat on folks when they're down, but it is fun. Look, I've never owned or shot a Tauri. Never plan on it either. But given a choice between dying or shooting one, I guess after exhausting all other options, I'd shoot one. The guns are just junk. No lipstick on the pig, call it like it is.

One friend Earl (Earl the pearl) owned one. Yes, he was a fool for any number of reasons. First was he was a business man and bought it to protect himself and his business. You'd think he'd buy the best, not the worst. But not Earl. One day another friend and I were going shooting. Back then it was pretty common. He wanted to go along. He'd gone to a local to him discount house and picked up a full box of 50 brand new rounds. Over the course of an hour or so he'd had a few misfires.

From a box of American made .38s, one is way too many and almost reason to shun a brand if you have even a single one. Think recent Remington if you must. The old ones were rock solid, not so sure these days. I sure wish we'd see the box the subject ammo came from. You can be sure that if the lawyer is worthy, they'll be suing the ammo maker, too.

Anyway, back to Earl's Tauri. After a handful of misfires (non-fires, really), he was out of ammo. My buddy and I were shooting wadcutters I'd handloaded. Worthy of note was we'd had no misfires with handloaded ammo. So I ponied up a handful of my finest and he immediately began having misfires with those, too. So he got frustrated and threw all of them and his in a garbage can at the range. Then he left in a huff, making sure to deride my loading abilities. It didn't make me stop loading, just stop giving my finest away to anyone.

So after Earl hit the road, my buddy dug in the garbage can and retrieved all the "defective" rounds. Note here that if you watch long enough, you'll see misfires often will go off on the second attempt. I attribute that to the first hit fully seating the primer that maybe wasn't seated the first cycle. Well, as part of an experiment, he put all of the misfiring rounds in his gun and they of course all fired, as expected. The only way the experiment could have been done better would have been to try them a 2nd time in the junk gun.

I've had people try to sell me off brand guns at gun shows. I try to be polite and just decline. Life is too short to buy or shoot junk. But if I had one, I'd try to sell it to you!

In my "reloads", handloads really, my primers are all seated. But then I expect all factory loads to be that way too. I'm so sure of it because I use a 310 tong tool for that operation. You can feel them go fully seated. These are my handloads, and I expect each to be perfect.

Enough rambling. It was the gun's fault.

In these days with ammo, ( and just about everything else ) remaining in extreme demand, I'm personally leery of buying it for a while.

Figure with companies hiring a bunch of new folks, working longer/more shifts, etc, etc, the quality standards of ammo being produced has most likely dropped some.

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:
Why try to hard to overcharge a round to solve weak ejection, when a reduced power spring would do a better job? Or check the ejector and extractor and solve the problem.

You try and find a reduced power spring for a P290 in 380. Bet you'll come up as dry as I did. As for the "danger" of a 10% over charge in the 380, I guess you haven't ever heard of a Proof Load. There were zero indications of any hint of an over pressure load and it still didn't solve the weak ejection issues. What would probably solve the problem would be to put the slide into a Bridgeport Mill and reduce the mass of the slide. The problem with that solution is that if would also weaken the slide, something I am not foolish enough to try. So, since you seem to know it all, how about you tell me how to cure the ejection issues of this particular POS Sig Sauer.

When the Taurus .380 TCP first came out it got some good reviews and I decided to try one.

Didn't explode, but I experienced a serious safety issue. Pull the trigger, nothing would happen for a second or two, and then BANG! Disconcerting to say the least.

Went back to Taurus for repair and it has remained a safe queen ever since.

Maybe if there is a good price in a gun buy back program...

I’m not a Taurus fan, particularly their 1911’s, but I own, and have owned several Taurus revolvers. They have operated as they should, with no issues.