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I am new to the 32 game. I now own a couple of the Lipsey version SP101’s in 327 Magnum. Visually they are the best looking of the Ruger revolver lineup. It’s like a 3/4 scale S&W 19/66. They are fantastic. I did the full blown fluff and buff and swapped springs and they are fantastic now. Long way to say S&W as is the way for S&W screws it up. If you release a 32 you release it in full house 327 Magnum and then let the buyer use the whole enchilada of available calibers. Releasing it in 32 H&R Magnum is half way there. Not really worth the time. Just my 2 cents.

I won’t shoot either of these high volume till I get my Dillon setup. Until then though I will have a very viable 6 shooter on my hip. I have the 357 version as well if I need to practice cheaper (slightly).
 
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For me this is kind of a head scratcher. An all steel j-frame in 9mm, I’ve got a 640 which is the same weight but much more powerful in .357. If this was a lighter weight alloy frame or alloy/titanium combination it would make much more sense to me. Lightweight carry revolver with better ballistics than .38 special from a 642.




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If you release a 32 you release it in full house 327 Magnum and then let the buyer use the whole enchilada of available calibers. Releasing it in 32 H&R Magnum is half way there. Not really worth the time. Just my 2 cents.


I'm of the same opinion, and Smith's aversion to the cartridge has always puzzled me. The only thing I can figure is that they decided it's just too much for the J-frame...it is almost 25% higher pressure than the .357 Mag. The SP101 is quite a bit beefier.

I need another caliber like I need another hole in my head, but if I came upon one of those .327 101s at a fair price I'd be sorely tempted. Then again, the same could be said for one of these 940s. I have a revolver problem.


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I don’t think you have a revolver problem. You are fine the way you are.

I got my lipsey versions all for right around 700 plus 25 transfer. No tax because of Florida tax holiday. I thought that was reasonable.

I spent 20 more bucks on the spring kit.

The 327 mag pressure numbers are kind of crazy. I bet they are too much for the J frame. Shoot, I probably won’t shoot that many through mine either. Save them for actual duty.
 
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For me this is kind of a head scratcher. An all steel j-frame in 9mm, I’ve got a 640 which is the same weight but much more powerful in .357. If this was a lighter weight alloy frame or alloy/titanium combination it would make much more sense to me. Lightweight carry revolver with better ballistics than .38 special from a 642.


The 9mm rides between .38 and .357. But without the blast and recoil of full house .357. Someone on another forum ran some chrono result using 124 gr +P HST 9mm & Remington Golden Sabre 125 gr. They were basically equal in velocity. But the Remington ammo does run light for a .357.

I'm not sure what advantage one gun has over the other (I own both)? The 9mm might be easier to dump all the cartridges at once due to the full moon clip and short case. But I don't find them any faster to reload in the 940 vs. a speed loader in a .38/.357. Ammo is probably cheaper in 9mm and there's that less blast/recoil I mentioned vs. .357. But when I shot my Golden Sabre 125 gr. out of my 640-1 PC I didn't find it that blasty or any more recoil than my 9mm. But again, these are on the lighter side of .357 and are what I'd carry if carrying the 640-1. The weak link with my 640 (black PC version) are the moon clips. They're very flimsy compared to the 9mm clips. And won't fit every .38/.357 case. Other than case ejection, I don't see a point to them. They really don't make reloading easier. I could get .38 Super to load on them and fit into my cylinder but would probably never shoot them out of the gun.

I kind of collect J's, so like owning both. And with S&W, both can be discontinued next year. As they have done with the stainless 640 PC.


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I wish they would’ve made a variant of this in 327 federal with six rounds….


I would have been very interested. Perhaps not enough to purchase at $1k a pop though.


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I got mine for ~$860 at Range USA with a 10% off members special. MAP is $959.

The VZ G10 grips are outstanding and I will get them for my other J-frames. The polished finish and fluted barrel are also much nicer than standard Smiths.

Why 9mm?

Because a 2" barrel snubby revolver is about the same as a 3.5" semi-auto when you include the cylinder. The Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel 124 +P 9mm I use for my P365's will work perfectly in the 940. It's rated at 1150 feet/sec from a 3.5" barrel.

I have Gold Dot Short Barrel 135 Grain .357 for the 640 - it's rated at 990 feet/sec from a 1.9" snubby barrel.

So the 9mm is actually better with the right ammo. And cheaper to practice with. Moon clips are faster than speedloaders and you get 3. Yeah, pain to load the clips but not a huge deal.

And I just wanted one.
 
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I agree with all the above except that moon clips are finicky. You can drop a speedloader into your pocket. You can put a speed strip down your pants. You can drop loose rounds anywhere on your person. You get a moon clip even slightly bent it will ruin your day. Like unusable ruin your day.

For this single reason I find moon clips and self defense at odds with each other. Now for competition? Love them. My 8 shot N frame with moon clips is amazing. For reloads coming from my pocket most likely I’m not trusting my life to a tiny fragile piece of easily bent steel.
 
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I got mine for ~$860 at Range USA with a 10% off members special. MAP is $959.


This is pretty fair. The dealer cost on them is $829.
 
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I agree with all the above except that moon clips are finicky. You can drop a speedloader into your pocket. You can put a speed strip down your pants. You can drop loose rounds anywhere on your person. You get a moon clip even slightly bent it will ruin your day. Like unusable ruin your day.

For this single reason I find moon clips and self defense at odds with each other. Now for competition? Love them. My 8 shot N frame with moon clips is amazing. For reloads coming from my pocket most likely I’m not trusting my life to a tiny fragile piece of easily bent steel.


OK since this is my first moon clip revolver I will take note of that. Seems a small belt pouch would be preferable then pocket for a reload.
 
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Absolutely. Some rigid-ish container in your pocket or belt is a necessity (to me). In your pocket is a recipe for disaster.
 
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Honestly I find moon clips work best as an ejection aid more than a reload aid as far as SD is concerned. No worries about a stuck case or star slipping over a case or whatever. They all come out fast and positive.

I prefer a speed loader for a reload for all the reasons above regarding moon clip fragility and need for specific carrying methods etc.

So for me personally if I am running a revolver that takes moon's I will have it loaded with a moon clip and reload from a speed loader. Now for a house gun or something where the reload is sitting next to the gun then I will run the moon's. Obviously this is a moot point if it is an auto cartridge type gun like the 940 or a .45 ACP etc.

Now my advice comes from my vast knowledge of combat experience with a revolver......and by vast I mean next to to none......we will say "adjacent to negligible" it sounds better. Big Grin Razz


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I get halfway intrigued by a 9mm revolver because I have a lot of 9mm ammunition and think I should practice with a revolver more often. But then, Oh, yeah: Wink






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The Smith 547 had a similar system to the Charter. I'm sure the fit and finish on those was vastly superior to anything Charter arms has ever produced, but you're also gonna pay dearly for it at this point. I actually know a guy who has one...


The guy you know has a S&W or a Charter Arms? Either one, has it been reliable?
 
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The Smith 547 had a similar system to the Charter. I'm sure the fit and finish on those was vastly superior to anything Charter arms has ever produced, but you're also gonna pay dearly for it at this point. I actually know a guy who has one...


The guy you know has a S&W or a Charter Arms? Either one, has it been reliable?


He has an S&W 547. He's a buddy I used to work with who retired a couple of years ago. He bought the gun after retirement, and I haven't seen him since he bought it. Knowing him he's at least shot it some.

He sent me some pics right after he bought it. It's an interesting gun. Not only does it have the spring-loaded tabs in the ejector star, but it's also got two holes in the breach face/recoil shield...one for the firing pin and another for a special pin that pushes against the case head to make sure the round stays seated all the way into the cylinder for proper headspace. The firing pin is also a little wider to prevent pierced primers.


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A) 38 super revolver sounds great.

B) What I want is one in a 38 special frame, not plus p, with the cylinder cut down to only hold wad cutters.

I think that will let the barrel be longer, with the same OAL.

Of course, I also think the same thing should be done with a 22, along with increasing the twist rate if the 22, to permit 60gr bullets.
 
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