I've seen what these pistols go through - far worse than any LEO weapon, worn hard, put away wet and dirty. Pass

JMO.

I don't think you will ever see true M9's for sale from the CMP. Second hand from a surplus supplier, but not the CMP.

Probably never. And even if they do become available, the majority of it will probably be beat to shit.

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Military 1911s have only recently been approved for CMP sales

Not true.

The bill made it out of the committee, but still has to make it through the House, and then the Senate.

https://mikerogers.house.gov/p...aa-good-east-alabama

Well I suppose one could always hope for some fortuitous 'contract overruns' when the Army is finally done with Beretta. I'd imagine that there would be plenty of demand if that were to happen.

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Originally posted by darr3239:

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Military 1911s have only recently been approved for CMP sales

Not true.

The bill made it out of the committee, but still has to make it through the House, and then the Senate.

This was the most recent update I could find: https://mikerogers.house.gov/p...aa-good-east-alabama

Thanks for the update. However, I just checked and it passed the House in July.

https://www.nraila.org/article...passage-of-2018-ndaa

Cool.

While somewhat off topic if I were considering adding another Beretta to my stable, or if I were the OP, I would be hunting for an M9A1 (and I would gladly take the A1 over even the Langdon M9). I wish I hadn't waited until 2016 to buy mine because if I had known how much I would like it I would have tried to trade either the FS or (more likely) the M9 in for another one if the supply hadn't dried up. I think I must have gotten one of the last ones (with factory night sights no less)in February.

While the $400 FS at the OP's local dealer could be a good deal I would also recommend looking around for an M9A1

Thread drift, on those CMP 1911s, 40 years ago, the last one I was issued had been arsenal reworked 4 times! And that was then! A piece of paper could be inserted between the slide and frame......

Buds has the Italian made 92FS for $469.00.

I use to buy beat up trade in guns and by the time I was done buying replacement springs and another mag or two, I could have bought a new one on sale or a used one in 95% condition.

Used pistols rarely "need" new springs, and we always buy more mags right?

I'm waiting for a genuine Mossad Beretta Model 71 (.22 LR). Been waiting quite awhile…

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Originally posted by Nick B:
Buds has the Italian made 92FS for $469.00.

Just out of curiosity, is there anything substantially different between these and those made in Maryland?

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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
I'm waiting for a genuine Mossad Beretta Model 71 (.22 LR). Been waiting quite awhile…

That's because they didn't use them. If they used them at all, it was a Model 70S. Its mostly myth.

The current surplus 71's on the market were used by Sayeret Matkal.

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
Just out of curiosity, is there anything substantially different between these and those made in Maryland?

I thought they just moved all their equipment over? Should be the same, just marked Tennessee. I know there were finish issues but that was on the M9A3.


I'm thinking of getting the Langdon M9. My only Beretta is an old 84F

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Originally posted by Phelen_Kell:

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
Just out of curiosity, is there anything substantially different between these and those made in Maryland?

I thought they just moved all their equipment over? Should be the same, just marked Tennessee. I know there were finish issues but that was on the M9A3.

Re-read his post. I believe he was talking about the difference between the Italian and US 92FS. Unfortunately, I can't answer that question.

Yes, there are differences between the US and Italian made guns, mostly the finishes (not by design but by whatever processes each respective production line uses). Neither are as well made as the early guns...until 2005 or so.

The current crop of 92's out of Italy have a weird crinkle coat finish on the alloy lowers. The 92A1 a friend bought recently (Italian-made) had a NASTY bur on the feed strip; we had to us a deadblow hammer to separate the upper from the lower. The current Inox guns from Italy have a weird whitish silver anodized finish.

All that said, there are been some major QC issues out of the new Gallatin plant. It took until the fourth M9A3 I ordered to get one of acceptable quality.

Bottom line; be sure to inspect any brand new gun from Beretta for function and fit/finish before filling out a 4473.

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Originally posted by darr3239:
Used pistols rarely "need" new springs, and we always buy more mags right?

That's quite relative.
If I wasn't the one that bought it originally, depends if it's a one owner gun, I would be inclined to replace them simply because ascertaining the age and round count is really not possible.

Thanks!