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You know there is something to be said for equipment being a crutch for skill.
December 10, 2017, 11:16 PM
cslingerYou know there is something to be said for equipment being a crutch for skill.
I have said many times that I am a hobbiest not a gun fighter. I have lots of firearms and lots of manuals of arms. I try to be passable with anything with a trigger. All that being said I am no Bob Mundan. Hell I am no Bob Newhart.
So anyway I ran to the range today with 2 guns. A .40 SIG P239 and an Ed Brown Kobra in .45.
I haven’t had either out in a long time. I did ok but not great with the P239 mostly because I kept playing with my grip since I tend to ride the slide lock and cause it to not lock back. My shooting suffered a bit from this.
The Ed Brown however, wow one single smaller than fist sized hole dead center except for 2 flyers called by me before they left the barrel.
The point I am making is in this personal anecdote the tool certainly was a crutch for my skill. That Brown is fitted perfectly with a great barrel and an awesome trigger and good sights etc. it really is an example of the tool helping mask my skill inadequacies.
Both are great, well made guns being shot by a hack. The Brown, however, easily says to the hack behind the trigger, “relax, I got this.” So I guess equipment can, indeed, help bridge the skill gap. Well at least for me on this day.
Of course one needs the fundamentals to take advantage of the tool but damn if that Brown is not a shooter that makes even my shaky dumbass look like a boss.

Take Care, Shoot Safe,
Chris
December 10, 2017, 11:26 PM
P220 SmudgeI've owned and shot guns that made the shooter look good. But at the end of the day, the truth is, if you don't know what to do with it, it isn't going to matter what it is. At least some of it's on you.

Congrats on a fun range trip. Those are the ones that make you wanna keep going back.

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December 10, 2017, 11:42 PM
PrefontaineThe old software vs hardware debate. Well aware. I read a lot of software vs hardware. To me, it is both, equal parts. Or should say I am weak, I need both

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December 10, 2017, 11:46 PM
dehughesAgreed, skill and gear both matter. I like it when one reveals something about the other, as those instances always impress truth into my mind and flows into my practice.
Glad you had a fun range day...it's neat when it all lines up.
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December 11, 2017, 07:13 AM
dc54I have some days that I look like a great shooter. Other days, not so much. Usually the good days are with high quality firearms. Sometimes the not so much as well. When things do click, it's nice to not have to worry about it being the gun. Those rare days are what put a huge grin on your face vs the smile I get everyday at the range.
Sigs, HKs, 1911s, Berettas, Glocks and SW revolvers
December 11, 2017, 09:46 AM
arlenI do not know that technology can help me. But I buy the best that I know is quality and hope for the best. One thing that I DO stay away from is light trigger springs and hammer springs. Hair triggers scare me and always have. So I concentrate on my trigger pull, reset, and grip to achieve mediocrity.
Regards,
arlen
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December 11, 2017, 10:24 AM
FN in MTRecently bought a CZ Shadow 2 in 9mm. Sort of a poor mans SIG X-5.
I get the same good feeling with it, as I do with my Wilson/Ed Brown 1911's or my SIG X-5's. It simply makes you a better shooter, by being so accurate and smooth.
I like nice toys. There's that pride of ownership thing too.
December 11, 2017, 10:28 AM
YooperSigsFor me, the P225 (old style) makes me look really proficient. I just shoot it well. I cant say why as I shoot it the same way I shoot everything else.
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December 11, 2017, 12:04 PM
Sigmundquote:
Originally posted by cslinger:
...All that being said I am no Bob Mundan. Hell I am no Bob Newhart...
No Bob Lee Swagger either?
December 12, 2017, 09:19 PM
pedropcolaI ride the slide release on my 225a1 (same part # as 239) as well. What worked for me was taking it out and dremeling it to a much smaller size. I bought a spare so if I ever want to I can return it to stock. Don’t ride it anymore though.
December 13, 2017, 04:38 AM
egregoreArnold Palmer was a
skilled golfer, but even he wouldn't be able to do his best work with clubs that don't fit him. I don't see guns as any different. I shoot some handguns better than others.
December 13, 2017, 06:30 AM
Sig209This manifests itself across many occupations, hobbies, sports, etc.
race guns
bikes
GPS / electronics
surf boards
golf clubs
robotic surgical tools
etc etc
You can certainly 'buy your way' into a higher level of performance.
But the proof is when - things go to sh*t - and the true 'ability' has to shine. The crutch is broken / in-op / unavailable. That separates the pretenders from the real deal.
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Proverbs 27:17 - As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another.
December 13, 2017, 07:26 AM
Skins2881quote:
Originally posted by Sig209:
This manifests itself across many occupations, hobbies, sports, etc.
race guns
bikes
GPS / electronics
surf boards
golf clubs
robotic surgical tools
etc etc
You can certainly 'buy your way' into a higher level of performance.
But the proof is when - things go to sh*t - and the true 'ability' has to shine. The crutch is broken / in-op / unavailable. That separates the pretenders from the real deal.
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Yep.
If I'm having a problem and I think it has anything to do with gun/sites I find the best shooter I'm with and ask them to run a couple of mags. Every time it was the shooter not the gun, every single time.
Give Jerry Miculek a Hi Point, he'll still out shoot us all.
Jesse
Sic Semper Tyrannis December 13, 2017, 09:12 AM
YVKquote:
is in this personal anecdote the tool certainly was a crutch for my skill
Crutch is not defined by a mechanical attributes of tools but by user's overall skill set and attitude.
December 13, 2017, 05:03 PM
Jus228An inaccurate gun will not shoot better with a world class shooter behind it. However, an accurate gun will sometimes make an average shooter look good. I would know.

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December 13, 2017, 06:36 PM
jimmy123xquote:
Originally posted by egregore:
Arnold Palmer was a skilled golfer, but even he wouldn't be able to do his best work with clubs that don't fit him. I don't see guns as any different. I shoot some handguns better than others.
I agree, also .40 is not known as an inherently accurate cartridge, like .45 acp (and some others are).