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I have an early P365 made March 23, 2018. I've put a few hundred rounds through it with no issues. I bought a second one made in June, and I've just carried that one. My brother wants to buy one, so I'm trying to decide if the March product is okay.

I called Sig this morning, and was told that the issues were from a batch made in late March to April, and still less than 1% have problems. No warranty replacement of parts is the policy. If I want a new striker, $40, $10 for the trigger spring.

My brother will shoot this a little and plans to carry it. Is it good to go as is?


EDIT TO ADD: He's not my favorite brother. Smile
 
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Sig is known for their forthright honesty and in immediately telling you everything you need to know. I'd go with that.



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I believe SIG has taken a hit due to the problems with the P-365. Is bothers me that this a product builkt here in the US. The gun market is thriving with new and innovating product for customers and every day a new gun is revealed which works fawlesly. P-365 is a bust because the R&D was flawed. The price to cutting corners is both revenue loss and customer loyalty. Hope SIG recovers from this fiasco. They are SIG for God's sake!! Hope this is not their new QC approach. Field it and let the public do the R&D for us!!!!!
 
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What makes you think it's a "bust?" We sell maybe 12 a week. They're comparatively expensive, too. Do you think the 320 is a bust?
 
Posts: 17317 | Location: Lexington, KY | Registered: October 15, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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At a gun counter yesterday, just about every customer was asking to see a P365 or P365XL.





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Posts: 7364 | Location: Arkansas  | Registered: November 06, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I am not exactly what you would call a current SIG cheerleader nor do I personally care one way or the other as far as the 365 goes but.....

-it is a pretty innovative product and magazine design for a fairly powerful round packed into an extremely small operating envelope. Teething problems were gonna happen and all things considered I think it’s done OK in this regard.

-P365’s are basically flying off the shelves. It’s certainly not a sales failure by any stretch.

-lots of other gun makers have had recalls/issues over the past 10-15 years. Ruger, Walther etc. so it’s not like SIG is the ONLY outlier here.

As to the OP, and this is just ME personally, but I’d want the latest revision or parts in a P365 for me to really trust it. Not saying they are all gonna self destruct, just that for my piece of mind I’d want the updated parts.

But the again it’s all a numbers game....
What are the odds of being in a confrontation
What are the odds of said confrontation requiring a weapon drawn and fired.
What are the odds that the sight of said weapon and or the first shot doesn’t run off said attacker(s)
What are the odds the pistol will subsequently fail in some way.

I mean I know that’s a sanitized way to “quantify” a shit show but that’s kind of how I see it, so even though I want all the latest parts/revisions if you have checked out the gun you are probably fine.


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This is what I would do, if I were in your shoes. Tell him to buy a new one. That way, if anything goes wrong, he can't blame you for selling him a POS, especially that he's not your favorite sibling. If he were a good sibling, I would gift one to him. Smile


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Originally posted by 12131:
This is what I would do, if I were in your shoes. Tell him to buy a new one. That way, if anything goes wrong, he can't blame you for selling him a POS, especially that he's not your favorite sibling. If he were a good sibling, I would gift one to him. Smile


Can't find a new one anywhere online or locally, at least not at a reasonable price. So I decided to let him have my newer one, and I'll keep the older and order a new striker assembly (whenever they become available). If anyone knows, what besides the striker assembly do I need to bring it up to new standards? Sig CS mentioned a trigger spring, I think.
 
Posts: 3570 | Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana | Registered: June 20, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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The trigger spring failure thing is only an issue if it's dragging on the magazine. Take out your mag and see if there's a deep shiny scratch on the back. If not, then the trigger spring needing replacement is not an issue.

As for the striker, just get a new one for piece of mind (or a new one every 1000 rounds if you're really paranoid), however with the actual failure percentages of even the "bad early batches", the chances of it failing on you are very tiny. Subtract in the even more minuscule chance you actually have to draw your gun in self defense, shoot at the bad guy, and it fails because of the striker, makes all your percentages get even tinier. You are far more likely to have some other sort of mechanical (I.E. magazine related) or ammo related problem than worry about the minuscule chance your striker is going to break, but if you are, just get a newer production one, or if you're REALLY paranoid, get a tool or Stainless steel machined one.
 
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I'd be fine with it.
 
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We've got a few hundred as authorized BUGs on our department. I haven't heard of a single issue yet. Mine is an early gun and has been absolutely flawless through roughly 2k rounds.
 
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