DAO sig 228 west german question

November 08, 2020, 09:09 PM

SMG6702

Hi all I saw one of these at my local place and was wondering is it less popular because of that ? All of my older and west german Sig's are all DA/SA but I don't have a 228 so was just wondering if that should be a reason not to get it . Thanks in advance

November 08, 2020, 09:19 PM

12131

DAO P228s were made mainly for LE agencies. Unless you're a DAO fan, there are no reasons to get it, with one exception. That you can get it for a song, then convert to DA/SA and still come out ahead.

November 08, 2020, 09:26 PM

gearhounds

^^^^
I have a nice TT 228 that I did exactly this with. DAO when I bought it, converted it and couldn’t have been happier.

November 09, 2020, 08:19 AM

T.Webb

I wouldn't mind getting a DAO 228, just to have as a DAO gun.

I had a DAO NYPD 226, that I converted to DA/SA and I kind of wish I hadn't. If I could have mastered that heavy DAO trigger, I could have mastered just about anything!

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November 09, 2020, 08:53 AM

sigfreund

quote:
Originally posted by T.Webb:
If I could have mastered that heavy DAO trigger, I could have mastered just about anything!

I am curious whether your NYPD DAO P226 had a mainspring marked with red paint. If so, that was the DAK mainspring that mine was equipped with, and that resulted in a much heavier trigger pull weight than other DAO SIGs’. The pull weight of a DAO pistol with a normal mainspring would be the same as the double action pull of a DA/SA pistol.

Converting a DAO SIG to DA/SA is easy and relatively inexpensive (last time I checked). All that’s necessary is to add the decocking assembly parts and change the hammer to the DA/SA type.

November 09, 2020, 11:23 AM

snoris

quote:
Originally posted by sigfreund:
quote:
Originally posted by T.Webb:
If I could have mastered that heavy DAO trigger, I could have mastered just about anything!

I am curious whether your NYPD DAO P226 had a mainspring marked with red paint. If so, that was the DAK mainspring that mine was equipped with, and that resulted in a much heavier trigger pull weight than other DAO SIGs’. The pull weight of a DAO pistol with a normal mainspring would be the same as the double action pull of a DA/SA pistol.

Converting a DAO SIG to DA/SA is easy and relatively inexpensive (last time I checked). All that’s necessary is to add the decocking assembly parts and change the hammer to the DA/SA type.

The "New York" triggers on NYPD sidearms over the years (including the SIGs) have been so heavy to reduce negligent discharges that the running joke is the NY stands for "now yank." Accuracy suffered badly as well.

If I'd purchased an NYPD P228, the first think I would have done is change it to DA/SA.

November 09, 2020, 12:28 PM

sigfreund

quote:
Originally posted by snoris:
If I'd purchased an NYPD P228, the first think I would have done is change it to DA/SA.

Well, I changed my NYPD P226 to DAK, but if that had not been an option, I would have simply replaced the mainspring to reduce the DAO pull to a reasonable level.

November 09, 2020, 12:49 PM

jimmy123x

quote:
Originally posted by T.Webb:
I wouldn't mind getting a DAO 228, just to have as a DAO gun.

I had a DAO NYPD 226, that I converted to DA/SA and I kind of wish I hadn't. If I could have mastered that heavy DAO trigger, I could have mastered just about anything!

Get yourself a S+W Sigma for $200 or a bodyguard 380, if you can master either of those, you can master any trigger!!!!!!!!

I wouldn't want a DAO Sig, BUT if the price was right it would be a prime excuse for me to send it out to be converted to DA/SA or SA along with an excellent trigger job done by one of the top SIG gunsmiths on the forum.......

November 09, 2020, 07:25 PM

SMG6702

Thanks for the info I'm going to take another look and see if I can get the price down . Always hard to resist a west german sig lol

November 10, 2020, 06:54 AM

T.Webb

quote:
Originally posted by sigfreund:
quote:
Originally posted by snoris:
If I'd purchased an NYPD P228, the first think I would have done is change it to DA/SA.

Well, I changed my NYPD P226 to DAK, but if that had not been an option, I would have simply replaced the mainspring to reduce the DAO pull to a reasonable level.

I recently heard that the previous and current rookie class got to train with a normal trigger and an NYPD trigger. They left the academy with NYPD triggers, but information is being compiled for possible future changes. (Although I doubt the bureaucrats will allow changes)!