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I can’t believe I’m going to say this but……..this is one of the big reasons I dig HK. Their service/communication is pretty stellar. Ohhh how the worm has turned. Big Grin. Maybe all those folks who hate us and think we suck got better jobs at Walther. Razz


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Shit. I just bought a 4 in pdp pro e compact and a 4 in pdp sd with noght sights. I did this because of all the issues coming up with the 320


Seems to be an issue with early ones. Mines a 2023 and haven't had this issue myself.


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I can also imagine that Walther will double down on not admitting fault in the midst of these P320 lawsuits. I could live with the issue, but I totally understand why OP and others will not. Just to play devil’s advocate though, in what carry and/or defensive situation would this issue present a problem?
 
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Didn’t the PPQ have this issue as well? To the best of my knowledge, this was a consequence of Walther “converting” the P99’s DA/SA trigger to SAO for the PPQ (and later PDP).

I'm honestly not sure, never owned one of those models, my first Walther was in 2024 and it was the PDP lol
 
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I can also imagine that Walther will double down on not admitting fault in the midst of these P320 lawsuits. I could live with the issue, but I totally understand why OP and others will not. Just to play devil’s advocate though, in what carry and/or defensive situation would this issue present a problem?


Yea I could totally see them doubling down same as the 320 issue or no issue lol I own this gun for 6 months and did not notice any issues until I went to a training class and it was as if an assailant was attacking you and we shot at a rubber dummy and pushed off of him with the gun and shot and my gun was the only gun in the entire class that did not go off due to the dead trigger!!! that's when I contacted Walther.
 
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I can’t believe I’m going to say this but……..this is one of the big reasons I dig HK. Their service/communication is pretty stellar. Ohhh how the worm has turned. Big Grin. Maybe all those folks who hate us and think we suck got better jobs at Walther. Razz


LOL i do love my HK VP9A1F Smile and the HK 45 compact as i own both, never needed to use their customer service LOL they are wonderful pistols!!!
 
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Shit. I just bought a 4 in pdp pro e compact and a 4 in pdp sd with noght sights. I did this because of all the issues coming up with the 320


Seems to be an issue with early ones. Mines a 2023 and haven't had this issue myself.


3 of mine are 2024 models and 1 is a 2025, then the one with the issue is a 2022 model. Agree it is an issue with the early models, however I bought the one with the issue in 2025, it just so happened to be old stock unfortunately and was a 2022 model!
 
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I would send letters to the better business bureau and your local consumer fraud divisions. Companies will often follow up when they are contacted about the complaint.
 
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I can also imagine that Walther will double down on not admitting fault in the midst of these P320 lawsuits. I could live with the issue, but I totally understand why OP and others will not. Just to play devil’s advocate though, in what carry and/or defensive situation would this issue present a problem?


An entangled fight where the gun is pushed out of battery either through intentional or unintentional contact as or while the trigger is being pressed. The trigger will be dead when the gun comes back into battery and the slide must be cycled to correct it.

I think there is some debate out there over whether this is truly an issue. Obviously they have rectified it, but I'm not convinced it was something that they see as having been "wrong" to start with.
 
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That is an interesting way to put it. I can see why they perhaps don’t consider it a warranty item if they don’t consider it a “defect”. Merely altering the gun itself, a rolling mod, isn’t in itself proof that they consider it so.

I am conflicted on this one. All mine are post 22 so they don’t do this. Certainly for a range/comp gun I wouldn’t GAS. For SD? I probably would care just b3cause I want as many chips on my side of the table as possible.

I don’t think this warrants blowing up the internet over or selling off all the post 22 ones but I’d be a liar is I haven’t flown off the handle on something that bugged me.

I just wish Walther sold shortened slide releases. That makes me want to go off on them. lol
 
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I would send letters to the better business bureau and your local consumer fraud divisions. Companies will often follow up when they are contacted about the complaint.

Well I did the American thing and sold it used to the gun shop I bought it from LOL and bought a new gun! Im done with Walther, the PDP was my first Walther pistol and it will be my last, I spent around $7500 on 5 PDPs and 1 PPQ 22
 
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That is an interesting way to put it. I can see why they perhaps don’t consider it a warranty item if they don’t consider it a “defect”. Merely altering the gun itself, a rolling mod, isn’t in itself proof that they consider it so.

I am conflicted on this one. All mine are post 22 so they don’t do this. Certainly for a range/comp gun I wouldn’t GAS. For SD? I probably would care just b3cause I want as many chips on my side of the table as possible.

I don’t think this warrants blowing up the internet over or selling off all the post 22 ones but I’d be a liar is I haven’t flown off the handle on something that bugged me.

I just wish Walther sold shortened slide releases. That makes me want to go off on them. lol


I look at it as a firearm is a life saving tool. Who's to say what, when and how it could happen. I expect perfection in my carry gun period. If its not perfect then its not my carry gun. I purchased 4 other PDPs before this one that were perfect and then got the one with the issue, to me it is a manufacturing defect because I own around 30 pistols right now and none of them do this except for this one PDP and now that I sold this gun used who's to say the next buyer wont figure this out also contact Walther they will refuse his warranty again and then they lost another customer again. Seems like bad business practice.
 
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I expect perfection in my carry gun period.
 
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I expect perfection in my carry gun period.


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I’ve posted before about my experiences with Walther’s utter lack of Customer Service. I had to replace a front sight that went flying off a new PPQ. I contacted them about a different issue 5 times and never got a resolution. I won’t foist the gun on another shooter and I won’t buy another Walther ever.
 
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now that I sold this gun used who's to say the next buyer wont figure this out


Am I understanding this correctly, you sold this gun to a gun shop, who'll invariably sell it to someone else? Why would you do that after creating a thread regaling all of us with its dead trigger issues? Did you fully disclose the issues to the gun shop, so that they could inform a potential buyer?


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now that I sold this gun used who's to say the next buyer wont figure this out


Am I understanding this correctly, you sold this gun to a gun shop, who'll invariably sell it to someone else? Why would you do that after creating a thread regaling all of us with its dead trigger issues? Did you fully disclose the issues to the gun shop, so that they could inform a potential buyer?


I absolutely sold this gun to the same gun shop I purchased it from and explained to them the issues with it and the poor customer service. While I was selling this one also sold a PDP steel frame match, both with 509T on top. It's up to the gun shop if they disclose it to the next buyer. This is 100% on Walther and not me as a consumer.
 
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