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I was thinking about adding another .22 plinker but decided it made more sense to get a decent air pistol. I can shoot it on my property, no range costs and cheaper to buy.

Mostly I wanted a decent trigger and this entry level competition pistol seems to fit the bill.
It's been too cold to spend much time with it but yeah, the trigger is nice and the gun is accurate beyond my standards.

The grips are big. I've got plenty of wood working tools to reshape it but don't want to just jump in. Is there some kind of science, some guidelines to best fitting a grip to one's hand?




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The match grips on your pistol can be fit individually but it should not it should not be done to begin with because there´s lot´s of potential in doing it wrong when you dont know your pattern of shooting errors. I recommend to adjust the palm shelve and trigger reach first and go from there.
The pistol in your picture is was previoulsly known as Gamo 45 Compact. You probably might find additional information when you google for it´s original name. More information on how to fit a pistol grip can be found over at targettalk.org.
For gripping technique check out Rink grips. There is a tutorial on how to hold a one Hand grip porperly.
 
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The pistol in your picture is was previoulsly known as Gamo 45 Compact.


Thanks, OTD. Yes, knowing this pistol has been out there for quite a while is one reason I got it. Parts and support should be available for some time. Its new importer Air Venturi seems to be putting out some decent products.

I'd like to get the grips right but I know if I really screw them up, I'll be ok. Smile




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What is it that you don't like about the grips? Too thick? Trigger too far away?


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What is it that you don't like about the grips? Too thick? Trigger too far away?


I'd say both but accessing the trigger better would be my first goal. The grips actually seem like a decent fit but my finger just reaches the trigger.

The trigger pivots and can be oriented so I get decent contact and the release is pretty well controlled. It's being pulled off axis so I'm sure that's not ideal.

There's plenty of wood to play with and I guess I have a couple ways to go in getting the finger in a better position -- remove material from the back or from the upper portion of the right side.

I must say those Rink grips OTD suggested are beyond words. I think there may be some shaping to try to emulate.

I'm not expecting to be a competitive 10 meter shooter, just looking to get better with a decent trigger on an accurate gun. I think I have a good low cost tool in the V10.




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Without being offensive, but thiese grips should fit almost any size. Here is a trick how to grip it.

Make a flat Hand and spread the thumb out.
Push the pistol slightly into the Hand.
Close the thumb. Then close the Hand.
Hand pressure should be light. Almost as if you would shake the Hand of a Girl. If you apply more pressure, you will start to flitch.

The thumb now should be on the thumb rest.
The righ side of the grip should slightly touch the Palm.
The trigger finger should not touch the grip.
The Palm shelve should slightly touch the Palm from the bottom.
There should not be any pressure on the Hand.
If you feel some pressure from the grip, sand the location down, but not to agressively.
 
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Thanks OTD.

The grip does feel pretty good but my finger barely gets to the trigger. Short of the first knuckle but with the trigger pivot the meat of that tip is fairly flush. Pulling the trigger is angled as a result.

Am I right in assuming I want the barrel to be in line with my forearm as I set my grip? With no recoil or follow up shots, maybe not like an actual firearm?




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The goal of the trigger squeeze is to fire the shot without disturbing the sight picture. That being said you also have to have enough of the trigger finger available to properly pull the trigger straight to the rear. As a right handed shooter if you don't then you will 'steer' the gun to the left. The easiest way to get enough finger on the trigger is to rotate your hand slightly to the left, with the heel of your hand moving to the right, and the fingers to the left.

If you want to get more finger on the trigger without altering your grip, then you will have to slim down the right side of the grip. I wouldn't start trying this until you put enough rounds through the gun and are sure that rotating your grip won't achieve what you're looking for. Also, if possible get a second set of grips in case you go too far on the first ones. You can always build the grip back up with wood putty, and a lot of shooters do this.

http://www.bullseyepistol.com/goodgrip.htm

http://www.pistol-shooting.com/grip-modifications.php


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The goal of the trigger squeeze is to fire the shot without disturbing the sight picture. That being said you also have to have enough of the trigger finger available to properly pull the trigger straight to the rear. As a right handed shooter if you don't then you will 'steer' the gun to the left. The easiest way to get enough finger on the trigger is to rotate your hand slightly to the left, with the heel of your hand moving to the right, and the fingers to the left.

If you want to get more finger on the trigger without altering your grip, then you will have to slim down the right side of the grip. I wouldn't start trying this until you put enough rounds through the gun and are sure that rotating your grip won't achieve what you're looking for. Also, if possible get a second set of grips in case you go too far on the first ones. You can always build the grip back up with wood putty, and a lot of shooters do this.

http://www.bullseyepistol.com/goodgrip.htm

http://www.pistol-shooting.com/grip-modifications.php


I guess my hangup has been trying to keep my forearm in line with the barrel. I can shift my grip around to get my finger on a straight axis with the trigger pull but my forearm is now parallel to the barrel, not in line.

With subzero temps forecast over the next few days, it'll be a bit before I see how this grip adjustment goes. As I say, the grip otherwise feels like a pretty good fit, I'd be happy not to mod it.

If I end up doing any shaping, I have plenty of Bondo. Smile




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