Weapon retention isn’t a device. It’s a state of mind. Good cops are always cognizant that there is always at least one gun in every situation. And always pay attention to where their gun is in relation to other people. It’s the difference between professionals and this.

This fucking goon had no idea who was around his gun, let alone that someone (the child) had there hands around it. He was completely distracted from paying attention to one of the key things we’re supposed to pay attention to. Further, he was “handing out stickers” instead of being the wolf that keeps the other wolves out.

agreed on all points. Our SRO asked the higher ups to just wear an off duty holster and no armor while at the school. The second I heard that, I was like WTF! then I went right in to admin and told them they better deny it or I'm quitting being in charge of stuff and going back to regular patrol. SRO must wear full duty gear and body armor. The nerve of some people.

My first duty gun was a Smith and Wesson 686 with a holster which totally exposed the trigger guard. The gun was held in place with a flimsy leather strap that went behind the hammer. You want to talk about being aware of your surroundings and always keeping your weapon side away from people, that sure taught me. Later we went to triple retention, then holsters with a shroud. While the new holsters afford better retention, it can also promote a false sense of security.

I work and carry a gun in a school around k-6 kids. The little ones grab the gun out of curiosity pretty frequently.

I don’t carry a weapon mounted light. Perhaps the SROs in elementary schools should just carry a flashlight on the belt and not have a weapon mounted light.

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Originally posted by jljones:
It’s the dumb ass cop that allowed a child to get their hands on his gun. Frankly, he should be fired.

Reading the article, I could not imagine how a kid's finger would be anywhere near the holster. "interacting" was he playing grab ass with the kids? And I'm not even talking pedo perv stuff.

Word on the street is he was helping the kid zip up his jacket.

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This fucking goon had no idea who was around his gun, let alone that someone (the child) had there hands around it.

Yes, be sure to keep the kid at least 21 feet away.

I didn’t read where Jones wrote that. I’ll have to go back and check. But I will say that the first day in the academy in 1985, we were taught that every call/contact we would be on had a gun involved. Our gun. I took this to heart and it was always in my head for 34 years, uniformed and plainclothes.

In fact in retirement I’m still cognizant of the fact in my activities of daily living while carrying concealed.

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Originally posted by jljones:
The problem is not the holster. It’s the dumb ass cop that allowed a child to get their hands on his gun. Frankly, he should be fired.

This wasn’t an “accidental discharge”. The gun did exactly what it was supposed to do. If the deputy had been doing what he was supposed to, this wouldn’t have happened.

Exactly