Hi All --

I've been gone several years and hope to get a quick question answered (without wading thru years of messages I missed).

Brand new P365 w/manual safety (yesterday) and yet unfired until later this week. Unlike my P320 I cannot retract the slide with the safety ON unless the pistol is already cocked. In other words I can't load the pistol with the safety ON. As noted I can do this with my P320 (also with manual safety).

The pistol is as yet unfired which I'm hoping to rectify later this week.

Normal, abnormal, needs some break-in? Any hints appreciated.

-- Chuck

It may just be a break-in thing.

I have a few p365s with manual safety.

I never use the safety but it is required behind enemy lines.

I took it out of my pocket and dropped the mag, ejected the round from the chamber.

I then put on the safety and reversed the process. Inserted a mag, racked the slide,
dropped the mag, topped the mag, and reinserted it. All with the safety on.

I did that on two different P365s.

Mine have a few hundred rounds each at least.

I don't really keep track, but they have been to the range with me a few times each.

Mine worked fine.

Good Luck

Thanks, will see what happens Friday morning when I'm near a range.

I appreciate being able to load my P320 cold with the safety On and "assumed" the P365 would function the same way. SIG doesn't furnish an Operators Manual and I'm not certain how current the downloadable manual is. Offends me to have to pay SIG $10 for the printed manual (+ $8 shipping I'm guessing).

Date on the pistol case is 15-SEP-2023 so it's about 2 weeks old.

-- Chuck

Little confused, if you want to rack the slide with the safety on and it won't if it's not cocked, why don't you cock it first, then put the safety on and load it? It's an extra step, but I didn't even realize it had to be cocked, I guess it always was when I load mine.

I just checked and uncocked, safety on locks the slide. Learn some thing new....

My P320 (M18 clone) slide can be hand-cycled regardless of the safety position so I was expecting the brand new P365 to operate the same way.

I like this as I can insert a loaded magazine into a safed pistol, rack the slide, and load the pistol -- and cock it -- without ever putting the safety on Fire.

Just getting used to differences. And also wondering if the P365 manual safety had anything to do with this.

-- Chuck

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I like this as I can insert a loaded magazine into a safed pistol, rack the slide, and load the pistol -- and cock it -- without ever putting the safety on Fire.

This is the way my HKs operate. When you rack the slide you are cocking it if it wasn't already cocked. At any rate, the slide can be racked with the safety on.

My 1911s do not operate that way. The safety has to be off in order to rack the slide on my 1911s.

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Originally posted by chuck s:
I like this as I can insert a loaded magazine into a safed pistol, rack the slide, and load the pistol -- and cock it -- without ever putting the safety on Fire.

-- Chuck

I guess that makes some sense, the military M4 and M16 rifles won't safe unless cocked, so we carried them uncocked and safery off, not a big deal in the 90s when no one had live ammo, but fast forward to 2000s Iraq and we had to carry unloaded weapons cocked so that we could have the safety on.

And I'm sure adding another step increased the probability of a screw up with live ammo when you're loading and unloading everytime you go through the gate.

All guns are different. You can’t rack the slide of a CZ with the safety on. HKs you can.

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