Sig was on fire last few years then lately nothin? Haven’t seen Phil Strader videos? They used pop up all the time?

Have heard that they will come out with a 2011 style pistol, and a metal frame fuse.

I'm wondering how well the classic retro P226 is selling. I'm curious because I'd like to see Sig Sauer lean into some more nostalgia. I know the M11 exists, but I would like to see an actual retro P228, with the appropriate markings. Similarly a retro edition of the original P225 would also be something I'd like to see. I know the latter is a hard sell, because for its size, it's "only" an 8+1 gun. If anyone wants to chime in that Sig did an update of the P225 10 years ago with the P225A1, my answer to that is that it was a glorified P239, with little in common with the original, save for being a single stack, and marked with P225(A1) on the slide.

Continuing with the nostalgia, I have all of the issues of Sig Arms Quarterly, that ran from the late 80's, until the mid 90's. I also have all of the issues of their second magazine Velocity, that ran from about 2003 to 2005ish. I wouldn't mind seeing another attempt at a trade publication, though in this age of digital media, and the decline of print media, I highly doubt this is on the radar of the people in Exeter.

All that said I think it makes sense for them to jump into the double stack 1911 market. I'll be very interested in seeing their rendering of said pistol.

With all the new stuff, I wonder how much will survive and have parts available if the item is discontinued. I'm interested in looking at a Fuse but not sure that parts, even as simple as a recoil spring, will be available in the near future.

Not a pistol but the other day they teased some sort of SBR looking thing with some sort of W logo.

Supposed to be announced today.

ETA: Just got the email after posting it’s the SOCOM Rattler another $3k rifle I won’t be buying
https://www.sigsauer.com/swg-r...il&utm_source=Eloqua

Sig could do the classics as a Gun Of The Month Program.

I think the 226 anniversary edition sold well. Not sure how many were available.

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Originally posted by Sig Sauer: For Hire:
Similarly a retro edition of the original P225 would also be something I'd like to see. I know the latter is a hard sell, because for its size, it's "only" an 8+1 gun. If anyone wants to chime in that Sig did an update of the P225 10 years ago with the P225A1, my answer to that is that it was a glorified P239, with little in common with the original, save for being a single stack, and marked with P225(A1) on the slide.

In some ways the 225A1 was an improvement. The trigger guard size and the trigger orientation work better for a variety of people without working any worse for anyone else (as far as I know, at any rate). The sights are at least arguably an improvement. I regretfully agree with you as to the chances of any kind of 225 being brought out again, but there's room to marry the slightly longer (but to me noticeably easier to use) slide and barrel of the 225 to the improvements (as I see them) of the 225A1 and produce a better pistol if it can be done at a price people will be willing to pay. Throw in a plastic lower like that on the Kriss Kymera if doing so will lower the price and add a magazine like that of the 365, and we might be looking at an awfully interesting little carry pistol. P225A1 XL, anyone?

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All that said I think it makes sense for them to jump into the double stack 1911 market. I'll be very interested in seeing their rendering of said pistol.

With all the double-stack 9mm 1911s out there these days, I keep waiting for someone to get inspired and throw a defensive rather than race-oriented double-stack .38 Super out onto the market.

I think the FUSE will be around for a bit, but I think SIG could help guarantee that by using the slide to provide more options. Something as simple as regular iron sights would be nice, and, being longer, it might be an easy way to put a longer-barreled upper half with a compensator on something like a MACRO lower. My only real worry here is based on the venerable 220 Match: once SIG decides a pistol is meant for match shooting rather than defense, SIG may stop (or never start) looking at ways to develop the pistol as a defensive-use pistol rather than a range critter.

I agree with Sig Sauer: For Hire on this one. A reissue of the original P225 would be really cool to see (with a milled slide and a classic short extractor). I’d say the same for a P228 reissue (with the legacy barrel geometry and narrow mag well too). This whole P229-1 idea is actually kind of silly now when you consider that SIG has discontinued 40/357 entirely.

Building modern "retro" copies of old guns is a losing proposition. There's a limited market for them, and the purists will never be satisfied that they're as good as the original. Case in point the 40th anniversary P226...I heard all kinds of complaining from the fact that it wasn't a folded slide to the way the foam in the box was cut. And that's from their intended customer base. And I'll be honest...they priced it so high that even though I thought it was a really nice pistol, it made a lot more sense for me to go look on the used market to get something similar.

I'd like to see them try a modernized take on the DA/SA guns. Give me something optics-ready with a hammer and a decocker the size of a P365 (or a little bigger) with a lightweight, modern polymer frame. Make it smaller and lighter than a P30SK or CZ P07/P09 and I'd bet it steals H&K and CZ's lunch without detracting from P365 sales. There's enough of us out here not enamored with the idea of a striker-fired CCW that I think it would be worth their investment to play in that market.

I like the P226 40th Anniversary but can’t get past the price. I’d probably just buy another MK25 if I was in the market and install parts to shorten the reset, improve the action and, be in for the same price as the 40th Anniversary. Haven’t seen much of anything new that isn’t just window dressing on established models.

Seems they'll throw us a curve ball at any time.

I like the classic P-series as much as anybody, but jumped at the chance to get a MP320.

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Originally posted by 92fstech:
Building modern "retro" copies of old guns is a losing proposition. There's a limited market for them, and the purists will never be satisfied that they're as good as the original. Case in point the 40th anniversary P226...I heard all kinds of complaining from the fact that it wasn't a folded slide to the way the foam in the box was cut. And that's from their intended customer base. And I'll be honest...they priced it so high that even though I thought it was a really nice pistol, it made a lot more sense for me to go look on the used market to get something similar.

I'd like to see them try a modernized take on the DA/SA guns. Give me something optics-ready with a hammer and a decocker the size of a P365 (or a little bigger) with a lightweight, modern polymer frame. Make it smaller and lighter than a P30SK or CZ P07/P09 and I'd bet it steals H&K and CZ's lunch without detracting from P365 sales. There's enough of us out here not enamored with the idea of a striker-fired CCW that I think it would be worth their investment to play in that market.

It’s definitely true that retro reissues are always a losing proposition. I think the reason that people are never satisfied (whether they are conscious of it or not) is plainly because of reality. The reissue can’t actually bring back the past that it tries to remind people of. Of course, neither can the original, but it’ll always get closer because unlike the reissue, the original actually existed in said time period. Hence, collectibles.

As a result, I’d also see any P225 reissue as a very limited run. In fact, if it hadn’t been for German police use and the 10rd capacity limit of the AWB in the USA, the P228 might have supplanted the P225 from day one. Who knows? But I don’t think a P228 reissue would necessarily have to be limited. The P229 and P226 are clearly still very popular. They could revamp the P229 lineup entirely by ditching the “P229” name (and the now unnecessary P229-1 hardware), using the P228 name (and legacy hardware) instead.

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Originally posted by YooperSigs:
Sig could do the classics as a Gun Of The Month Program.

Why not, right? They release gimmicks intermittently all the time. The only problem is, the classic folded slide guns are going to be a non-starter. SIG DE was the only place that had the machinery, and they no longer exist. SIG USA never had the capability to make them, and there is no evidence they ever acquired the machinery from SIG DE. The fact that they didn't release the 40th Anniversary P226 in original folded slide iteration tells you everything.

Steel frame p226 with long dust cover!!!

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Originally posted by gas226:
Steel frame p226 with long dust cover!!!

Been done. It's called the LDC.

I've been asking for more than a decade for rail-less frames. It would be easy to do, but no dice.

I thought that was an EU market gun that would have to be imported like the Mastershop X5s that were insanely overpriced.

365 size .22 with a 30 round magazine would get my attention.

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Originally posted by DanH:
I thought that was an EU market gun that would have to be imported like the Mastershop X5s that were insanely overpriced.

If you're talking about the LDC, it was made on both sides of the pond.