Hey Guys,

I am looking for some opinions and advice. I am new to handguns and recently decided I would like to get a handgun for self defense (not carrying) and for going to the range to shoot. I went to a gun store a few days ago with a list of handguns I wanted to get a feel for. I checked out the M&P 9M 2.0, Beretta M9A3, a HK (don’t remember the model & I asked to see a sig 320. I tried each gun before the sig and honestly they felt crappy in my hand except the Beretta. I liked the weight and the non plastic feel. The salesman said he does not a standard p320 but had something I would like better. He gave me a P320 legion x-five. I really liked the feel (felt heavy not as cheaply). I am 6’5 275lbs so the weight does not bother me and I actually like it. The salesman said it was like a traditional 320 with a bunch of upgrades to make it more enjoyable to shoot. He said it was a gun I would grow into. All that sounded great and I purchased it. I am in my three day window before I can take it home and started to google it. The reviews look great but what makes me a bit apprehensive is that everyone says the trigger pull is bordering on to light for self defense. I truly really liked the gun in the store and it looks like I will love going to the range with it but I do not want to sacrifice safety for that. After all this virus nonsense is over I will take a few handgun classes and i have completed one online safety class and I am half way through the NRA pistol basics class.

I am not sure I can even exchange the gun if I wanted but want to make sure I did not make a purchase that is not safe.

Thanks in advance for advice and comments.

You have excellent taste. The Beretta 92 series has been a long time favorite of mine. However, I predict you will be extremely happy with your 320 X5. They are already a fantastic weapon, and the Legion series grip makes it all the better. Don’t worry overly about internet hype or naysayers. Try it for yourself, and I think you’ll love it.

The legion is a well made pistol with competition in mind. Sig advises in their literature that the TXG grip (Legion) isn't for duty use, presumably because of the potential for cracking.

I have several of that grip and I've shot them a lot at the range and at matches, and have no reservations about them.

Your pistol has no manual safety; the trigger is light, smooth, and short and mishandling will risk discharging the pistol. It's paramount that you handle it properly, look when you holster, and keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.

The legion is heavy; it's designed that way to reduce recoil.

The trigger can be made heavier, though it's not necessary. It comes down to the user and how the pistol is handled. It's not going to discharge on its own.

You don’t think the pull of the trigger is to lite for self defense? The gun felt so great in my hands I just don’t want something that compromises safety.

Thanks.

Thanks for your input.

I think there's probably a difference between too light for carry and too light for a gun you might keep in a drawer. Any self defense use requires great caution and discipline, but not having to factor a draw from concealment in may give you a little more room. I find the trigger on my X5 Legion to be light, but not excessively so.

It's a great gun.

So you ask for the "Post-Purchase Blessing" ?
Very well, I hereby grant you the Post-Purchase Blessing, my son.

All kidding aside, the X-Five Legion will be excellent for your purposes.
I do not think that the trigger will be too light.
I've seen it reported that they come in at around 4lbs (or a bit under) as set up from SIG.

In the event it felt too light to you, you could have an extra-power trigger bar spring installed.

Good luck with the new pistol !

Hey Guys,

Thanks for the insights. I was not really looking for blessing but will take all that I can get. God know I need them

I'd be fine with a 320 Xfive as a home defense gun. I wouldn't carry it, because I would never carry a gun with slide cuts (don't want to risk crap getting in the slide and locking things up).

I wouldn't worry at all about the trigger for home defense. Make sure you keep your finger off the trigger and train.

I wouldn't have recommended an xfive for home defense personally, but it's not a mistake either imo.

...and welcome to guns and the forum!

The 320 X5 legion is an excellent home defense firearm, get a light and if you are a novice get training and practice as much as you can. I believe that a heavy trigger is worse than a lighter trigger for self defense, the most important thing is that you become proficient and when you achieve that you be good to go.

X5 sounds like a great choice to me.
Range use: don’t have to worry much about weight, getting junk in it, not overly expensive, easy to clean, accurate. CHECK
Home defense: pretty much all the same upsides. Big accurate easy to shoot gun with a bunch of bullets in it, sounds like a winner.

I'm not a striker fan, and hand bad experiences with the two rental standard 320's I tried (probably never cleaned). Both had failures. I would not recommend a striker with no safety for someone new to pistols to carry, but for keeping in your nightstand, it's perfectly fine. If you were going to start carrying for the first time, I'd suggest a SA/DA or a gun that has a safety.

Why stop at just one gun? I have never felt the legions trigger but for a night stand gun it is mostly fine, so long as you keep your finger out of the trigger guard until you're going to fire it. I'd buy a CZ 75 also which is DA/SA, great ergonomics for a big guy, great gun, as well.

As to home defense, keep in mind that you could also store the weapon unchambered, which minimizes the risk of unintended discharge. Some will argue against such a strategy by citing that the resulting need (to chamber a round) slows one’s defensive response. A fair point but we each need to draw a realistic line. For me, the brief time needed to rack the slide would be the least of my worries / concerns.

I have 5 320’s. One if them had a couple malfunctions in the first box of ammo then perfect. The others had 0 malfunctions. I shoot cheap Tula ammo nearly exclusively. If you have a malfunction I would be surprised. Rental gun anecdotes are nearly meaningless.

I prefer my bedside guns to be DA/SA because of the nature of strikers. I want a striker gun to be holstered or trigger guard covered. Which you can do for bedside gun but not in my house situation hence the DA/SA.

If you are ok with strikers I see no reason your X5 won’t be a fantastic HD gun.

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Originally posted by Erik638:
You don’t think the pull of the trigger is to lite for self defense? The gun felt so great in my hands I just don’t want something that compromises safety.

Thanks.

No. I do not.

The Legion trigger out of the box is not too light for carry. Matter of fact, the good rule of thumb is there isn't a factory gun out there (in common production in gun stores) that is too light for carry amongst the top tier manufacturers.

It may be advertised as a "competition" gun, but it really doesn't have a much better trigger than the factory guns.

If you follow the four basic safety rules, you'll be more than ok. They'll shield you and protect you for any bad stuff. Where we as shooters start to screw up, is when we start violating those four safety rules, and then try to rely on the gun to protect us from screwing up.

Enjoy your new X5.