It’s just putting the LED into super bright mode for a short period of time. Half hour maybe??? A short press of the itty bitty multi function button toggles between normal auto brightness and super bright mode (what I called overdrive). If I grasp the slide from the rear I sometimes hit the multi function button putting into bright mode.

In the picture in this thread the button is the little white rounded rectangle on the rear of the sight. It is a multi function button.
-short press when on switches between normal auto brightness and a super bright mode
-Long press/press and hold will cycle through the modes. It will cycle from wherever it is left. So holding while on the dot moves you to circle only etc. From off it cycles as follows
ON CIRCLE DOT
ON DOT
ON CIRCLE ONLY
OFF

I agree with most everything you said. It isn’t a requirement but I certainly shoot better with them.

If HK made a hammer gun with a factory optics cut I would be all over it.

The LTT P30 is an option that is basically a factory gun.

I’ve heard nothing bad about wright armory as well if you want to go that route. I’ve toyed with the idea of getting another P30 or P2000 slide assembly and sending it off to wright. Nothing that will happen anytime soon as it’s a big investment.

Chris

Funniest takeaway from this whole experiment is ……by God I really like this Glock 45!!! I mean more than just as a competent tool. It’s going get me running my other Glocks more.

I need another Glock like I need a hole in my head but…. That SCS fits so perfect and it gets rid of that shitty MOS plate I am tempted to buy a Gen5 something. My lgs has the 47, which I don’t exactly know what that is. 17 slide, 17 grip, 19 dustcover? Something like that. I don’t care what it is but I want that SCS.

I did the LTT route with all my 92’s including 2 Elites from him. Great guns. I hate aftermarket cuts though. Too limiting. I absolutely hate that optics plate that has the built in rear sight that comes with the LTT version. Yuck. Either HK does it or I do optics on other guns. Like your Glock. Lol

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Originally posted by cslinger:
It’s just putting the LED into super bright mode for a short period of time. Half hour maybe??? A short press of the itty bitty multi function button toggles between normal auto brightness and super bright mode (what I called overdrive). If I grasp the slide from the rear I sometimes hit the multi function button putting into bright mode.

In the picture in this thread the button is the little white rounded rectangle on the rear of the sight. It is a multi function button.
-short press when on switches between normal auto brightness and a super bright mode
-Long press/press and hold will cycle through the modes. It will cycle from wherever it is left. So holding while on the dot moves you to circle only etc. From off it cycles as follows
ON CIRCLE DOT
ON DOT
ON CIRCLE ONLY
OFF

Cool, thanks for the explanation. I typically cove over the top to cycle the slide, so I don't imagine I'd bump that button, but the only way to know for sure is to try it. I wish Holosun would expand that line to include other guns...I really want a low-profile dot, but not so much to buy another Glock.

I’ll be honest, I kinda want to pick up that little Leupold Tumor….errrr microdot and throw it on a Glock 26 now. It looks stupid but my experience with this scs and how low it sits and co-wits with stock sights makes me want to try that Micro dot now both for not needing to cut a slide and providing a natural co-witness (albeit ghost ring esqe) sight.

The more I think about the “dot” the more I like how quickly it is to re-acquire on recoil. My biggest fear with dots was that I have an astigmatism and even with corrected vision I have some minor dot distortion. Mostly it exhibits itself as eye fatigue if I try to use a dot on a rifle for precision work. On the handgun I am not shooting for bullseye precision so it’s working quite well for me.

Ehhh I am just a gun nerd looking to learn………ahhh ok that’s kinda bullshit…….I am just a 9 year old always looking for new toys. but at least I am a 9 year old who’s honest with himself.

My unsolicited 2 cents. Leupold dots are disappointing. The original Deltapoint was a piece of shit. I finally gave it to a buddy and told him if he hated it to throw it away. It has been thrown away. I bought the Pro. It’s kind of shitty too. I would stick to that Holosun. I almost guarantee you will be disappointed in that Leupold Micro. They need to stick to scopes.

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
My unsolicited 2 cents. Leupold dots are disappointing. The original Deltapoint was a piece of shit. I finally gave it to a buddy and told him if he hated it to throw it away. It has been thrown away. I bought the Pro. It’s kind of shitty too. I would stick to that Holosun. I almost guarantee you will be disappointed in that Leupold Micro. They need to stick to scopes.

Huh, not my experience. My Delta Point Pro works very well for me on my Walther PDP Compact.

It works. It also has a ridiculously high deck. It also has an idiotic user interface. Pushing a button inside the emitter area and it goes up, up, up, then reverses to down, down, down. Oh wait, they put a hold it for 2 seconds to change direction. It will flash 5 times at the peaks. Everybody, everybody else has figured out you need an up and a down button. Come on Leupold you can do better. No way anybody picks a DP Pro over an SRO if there is no bias. Hell, I would pick any Holosun over a DP Pro.

I am a Leupold fan, just not their dots. They could cherry pick some better features for their next product.

My Beretta 87 Target has an integral Weaver rail that makes it easy to mount/dismount a RDS. Ironically, I use the RDS mainly for dry fire. The RDS is very revealing of trigger break sight alignment displacement.

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Originally posted by 94hokie:
I tried a dot for a couple months. Really wanted to like it but never quite took to it, and none of my other guns are dot capable, so sticking with irons myself. I can see the potential, but after all these years with irons, and until my eyesight goes further, I’m going to stay the course.

I just turned 61 and my eyesight is diminishing. Is getting difficult for me to align the sights and the target. If I used my glasses at the range is a lot better, but in reality, if someone is threatening me or approaching me with bad intentions I just cant tell the person to hold on a sec while I put my glasses on. I just put an order for a sig P365 Macro and a Holosum 507k green dot.The perks of getting old

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
It works. It also has a ridiculously high deck. It also has an idiotic user interface. Pushing a button inside the emitter area and it goes up, up, up, then reverses to down, down, down. Oh wait, they put a hold it for 2 seconds to change direction. It will flash 5 times at the peaks. Everybody, everybody else has figured out you need an up and a down button. Come on Leupold you can do better. No way anybody picks a DP Pro over an SRO if there is no bias. Hell, I would pick any Holosun over a DP Pro.

I am a Leupold fan, just not their dots. They could cherry pick some better features for their next product.

Well I don't play with mine to make it go up,up,up, and down, down, down, so that doesn't bother me.

Seriously? You don’t ever shoot in different lighting conditions? Most manufacturers have a feature that adjusts to ambient light. Leupold originally said this would but it never made it into the production models. I don’t like the auto stuff but in a sight that has no fast way to adjust the dot it might have been nice. So if you shoot in an area that has different lighting conditions from the last t8me you shot you have to adjust. Hopefully you have the time to figure out if the dot is getting brighter or dimmer and then have 2 seconds to hold down the button to switch directions. It’s ludicrous. Which is why every single other manufacturer puts a friggin up and down button on their optic.

I’m glad it works for you. It’s a design in serious need of a Pro II model. They also need to put it on a diet. It is seriously tall. Putting the battery up top should not require it to be this high. The industry is going lower not higher.

If it was my money there are numerous better choices out there than the Leupold product. It’s not my money though.

As for the Micro, just no. Lol. That thing was commendable for thinking outside the box but that is about it. It even brought back the original DP minuscule adjustment screws. Tiny as fuck. Absolutely no clicks or feedback as you attempt to sight it in. Horrible. If you do buy one please give us a review though. I don’t these things sell very well.

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
Seriously? You don’t ever shoot in different lighting conditions?

No, seriously, I don't. I shoot at an outdoor range that is mostly covered, I shoot at an indoor range, and I dry fire at home. None of those situations require me to meddle with the brightness of the dot. My bedside weapon is my USPc45 with a 10 round mag and a Surefire X400 attached. I also have a Mossberg 930 SPX with a Surefire X300 attached close at hand.

I do agree with you on the tallness factor of the DPP being a possible negative.

Interesting. I’ve never found the intensity of the dot to be the same for an outdoor range, an indoor range, and in my home. You could save a fortune by buying a dot with a single intensity. On or off. Lol

I have also found that if I’m trying to be extremely accurate it is helpful to take the dot intensity to the least bright setting where I can still see it. Makes it more precise.

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I have also found that if I’m trying to be extremely accurate it is helpful to take the dot intensity to the least bright setting where I can still see it. Makes it more precise.

I've found the same thing. If I'm bullseye shooting for precision, I do exactly what you described. I also *gasp* pin the trigger. The slow, deliberate actions make it easier to be consistent and repeatable, and the better-defined dot with clear edges makes it easier to consistently place it in exactly the same spot on the target.

I have an astigmatism, so when I bump up the brightness, the Dot starts to flare a bit. For carry and practical shooting, I leave it cranked up near the top of the brightness scale, and just leave it there all the time. It makes for faster and easier dot acquisition, my focus is on the target anyway, not the dot, so there's no need for precise edge definition. I've also found that even on the higher brightness it's not overpowering my flashlight...and if it's truly pitch black you're not going to get absolute precision anyway.

A few weird lighting issues I've found with the Dot:

When shooting towards the setting sun, the glare has caused "false" or "ghost" dots in the window. If you use these as your aiming point instead of the actual projected dot, that's a problem...it'll send rounds off target. This isn't something that adjusting the brightness is going to fix.

Some handheld flashlight techniques that involve shining the light from behind the gun are a problem. With irons these techniques were useful because the light illuminated your sights, but projecting a 500-1000 lumen light onto the back of the optic can blow out the dot and make it impossible to see. Not the end of the world...just use different techniques...but it's something to be aware of.

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
Interesting. I’ve never found the intensity of the dot to be the same for an outdoor range, an indoor range, and in my home. You could save a fortune by buying a dot with a single intensity. On or off. Lol

I have also found that if I’m trying to be extremely accurate it is helpful to take the dot intensity to the least bright setting where I can still see it. Makes it more precise.

Of course the intensity is not the same. I never said it was, but it is sufficient for my needs. Another thing, do you switch intensity between strings of fire? I doubt it. Of course the smaller the dot the more precise you may be but then again, are you going to be precise for one shot and then switch intensity for the next. Again, I doubt it. LOL

I guess I don’t understand then.

“None of those situations require me to meddle with the brightness of the dot”

That’s what you said. Does your dot somehow adjust itself? My DP Pro doesn’t auto adjust. I didn’t think any of them do. So when I take out the gun I have to “meddle” with the dot depending on lighting. Indoors, outdoors, bright, dim. I have to meddle with the button and the archaic switchology to adjust it. Every other manufacturer uses up and down buttons. Leupold chooses to use the most idiotic switchology known to man. The only maker I know of that also uses it is the bargain basement Romeo Zero. For a top end, high priced optic I expect better.

So yes I don’t understand your posts. If the intensity changes it’s because you adjusted the dot intensity. So yes, you do “meddle” with it. In between strings? I don’t even know why you brought that up. I asked if you adjust the intensity between indoor and outdoor shooting and you said “ None of those situations require me to meddle with the brightness of the dot”. Yet that exactly what it requires.

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
I guess I don’t understand then.

“None of those situations require me to meddle with the brightness of the dot”

That’s what you said. Does your dot somehow adjust itself? My DP Pro doesn’t auto adjust. I didn’t think any of them do. So when I take out the gun I have to “meddle” with the dot depending on lighting. Indoors, outdoors, bright, dim. I have to meddle with the button and the archaic switchology to adjust it. Every other manufacturer uses up and down buttons. Leupold chooses to use the most idiotic switchology known to man. The only maker I know of that also uses it is the bargain basement Romeo Zero. For a top end, high priced optic I expect better.

So yes I don’t understand your posts. If the intensity changes it’s because you adjusted the dot intensity. So yes, you do “meddle” with it. In between strings? I don’t even know why you brought that up. I asked if you adjust the intensity between indoor and outdoor shooting and you said “ None of those situations require me to meddle with the brightness of the dot”. Yet that exactly what it requires.

I thought I explained myself well. At any rate there is no further reason to go on about this issue. My way works for me. If you can't understand, I can't help it. The up,up,up, down,down,down is a trivial matter, at least to me.