P365XL w/ flush base plates and clearing double feeds issue
This may, or may not, be of interest to anyone with the XL or XL grip module on their P365. I posted the following information, as a response, in one or two other threads. I then thought it might be good to do a separate thread so everyone with XL flush fit mags would be more likely to see it.
While practicing clearing a double feed from my XL, with flush fit mags, I had a significant issue. I set up my XL by locking the slide open and putting a snap cap in the chamber. A mag, with the flush fit base, loaded with a snap cap, was inserted and the slide was slowly released.
I struggled for a L-O-N-G time trying to strip the mag because I couldn't get a good grip on the base plate.
One solution is to use the 15 round mags. Another possible solution is to use a slightly extended base plate like this one . I am not affiliated with this company.
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November 24, 2019, 08:04 AM
sigarmsp226
10-7 - I will be the first to say thank you for posting this information and sharing your results..I carry everyday my P365XL lower on my P365 upper with a flush 12 round mag in the pistol and another one in my left front pocket...I have not practiced a rapid mag change as you explained, which is a mistake on my part for not having done this when I was running my first 240 rounds thru this modified set up I am running...
With this said can you provide a link to the mag base you posted please....I will get 3 of these on order today...Thanks again for creating a new thread on this issue because I did not see it previously....MarkThis message has been edited. Last edited by: sigarmsp226,
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Thank you Sir - Just ordered three units and shipping was less than $5.00 total...Mark
November 24, 2019, 10:44 AM
Nipper
Good to know. Thanks.
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December 14, 2019, 03:45 AM
sigarmsp226
Figured this thread was worth a bump because I got these P365XL mag bases in and they are very well built and work as stated.....I know they may be out of stock but get your email on the notification list...For me worth the price...Now my pinky does not slide off during a rapid draw from my IWB holster during target engagement...
Thanks Again 10-7 LEO for posting this great P365XL mag base....No affiliation with this company...Mark
December 14, 2019, 12:17 PM
MMA10mm
quote:
Originally posted by 10-7 leo: This may, or may not, be of interest to anyone with the XL or XL grip module on their P365. I posted the following information, as a response, in one or two other threads. I then thought it might be good to do a separate thread so everyone with XL flush fit mags would be more likely to see it.
While practicing clearing a double feed from my XL, with flush fit mags, I had a significant issue. I set up my XL by locking the slide open and putting a snap cap in the chamber. A mag, with the flush fit base, loaded with a snap cap, was inserted and the slide was slowly released.
I struggled for a L-O-N-G time trying to strip the mag because I couldn't get a good grip on the base plate.
One solution is to use the 15 round mags. Another possible solution is to use a slightly extended base plate like this one . I am not affiliated with this company.
This is why, when I teach Class III malfunction drills, I have students lock the slide back first. In addition to easing stripping the mag, it prevents slide spring pressure from grabbing the top round and holding it against the feed ramp.
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December 14, 2019, 09:37 PM
10-7 leo
Since attending several tactical pistol classes, I have changed my method to what I described in my OP. The instructors were a mix of Special Forces and a federal police firearms instructor. The focus of the class was speed with combat accuracy. Compared to the traditional method of clearing this type of malfunction, which I was originally taught, the new method is much faster.
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December 15, 2019, 12:02 PM
MMA10mm
quote:
Originally posted by 10-7 leo: Since attending several tactical pistol classes, I have changed my method to what I described in my OP. The instructors were a mix of Special Forces and a federal police firearms instructor. The focus of the class was speed with combat accuracy. Compared to the traditional method of clearing this type of malfunction, which I was originally taught, the new method is much faster.
But if the pistol’s mag baseplates make it difficult, it’s not faster; it’s slower. I’ve done both ways, and, unless you have no cover/zero time, I’d always use the more sure method. I didn’t find the time difference that great. Perhaps 2 seconds, or 3?
Gear change, like the baseplates you described, will also help, but at extra expense. (Sometimes it’s fun too. )
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December 22, 2019, 12:27 AM
Grayguns
Stripping out the magazine to clear a double feed or FTE without locking the slide back first, will damage the feedlips and is not recommended. It’s marginally faster only if the operator has the ability to apply enough dexterity, grip pressure and force to overcome the resistance from the feedlips being bent. I just lock the thing back and go to work. Thanks for reading!
-Bruce
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