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May 28, 2018, 01:41 PM
224TH
P365 giving me trouble
I have shot 500 rounds out of it no trouble so I started carrying it. I have 1200 rounds though it now. Today I was practicing with it and it left 3 fired cases in the chamber and jammed it up of course, Winchester White box 200 round packs.
Anyone had this problem?
The Glock 43 is in the waist band until I figuar it out.
Thanks for any input you have.
224TH
May 28, 2018, 02:17 PM
12131
Maybe it's the ammo that's the problem. WWB.


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May 28, 2018, 02:25 PM
az4783054
Have you thoroughly cleaned the chamber?

I've been using WINCHESTER White Box 115gr, PMC 115gr, BLAZER BRASS 124gr and FIOCCHI 147gr in mine. No issues with some of which is considered by many to be "dirty" or inferior ammunition. But, I do thoroughly clean my guns after each range session.
May 28, 2018, 02:29 PM
WARPIG602
I vote ammo


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May 28, 2018, 02:36 PM
rockchalk06
Have you ran the WWB ammo in anything else?

After you started having issues, did you try any other ammo in the P365?

Does your extractor claw look normal?
May 28, 2018, 02:41 PM
RHINOWSO
Was any of the previous ammuntion WWB?

Has the weapon been cleaned regularly or recently?

Check behind the extractor for carbon build up.
May 28, 2018, 04:26 PM
sourdough44
I just helped a friend of the Son, jammed up P320. They left it for me when I got home.

He has at least 500 rounds through the gun. I doubt he ever had the slide off, looking and a report from my Son. He had a Remmy steel case, fired shell stuck in the chamber, action locked shut.

The steel case shell had a surface almost like sandpaper, very rough. The gun was just about completely dry of lube.

I removed the stuck shell, disassembled the gun, cleaned, and lubed it up. It looks as shiny as new now. In his case I think it was a combo of, a dry, dirty gun, and very rough, dry cases.

I’ll give a gentle lesson on better care.
May 28, 2018, 04:32 PM
Il Cattivo
Scrub the chamber and extractor hook, lube everything properly, try something besides WWB, and see what happens.
May 28, 2018, 04:37 PM
224TH
It is cleaned after every range visit. It shot with no trouble in my Glock 17-19 and FN509 today but The ammo is junk. Just seeing if anyone had a similar problem with there 365.
224TH
May 28, 2018, 05:36 PM
WARPIG602
quote:
Originally posted by 224TH:
It is cleaned after every range visit. It shot with no trouble in my Glock 17-19 and FN509 today but The ammo is junk. Just seeing if anyone had a similar problem with there 365.
224TH


I assume its cycled WWB before?


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May 28, 2018, 07:27 PM
224TH
Yes but I don't use it much, very inconsistent. I have 200 rds left then never again.
224th
May 29, 2018, 01:53 AM
sns3guppy
Haven't seen that occur yet with mine, but so far it's been mostly Remington UMC, as I had some sitting around. The UMC is some dirty stuff, but nary an issue thus far.

I hear people decry winchester white box quite a bit, but I don't ever have problems with it.
May 29, 2018, 06:38 AM
WARPIG602
quote:
Originally posted by sns3guppy:
Haven't seen that occur yet with mine, but so far it's been mostly Remington UMC, as I had some sitting around. The UMC is some dirty stuff, but nary an issue thus far.

I hear people decry winchester white box quite a bit, but I don't ever have problems with it.


Didnt use to be that way. WWB was "the" range ammo. Ive been using CCI/Speer for about 6 years now, sprinkled in with some PMC Bronze when its cheap. No complaints.


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May 29, 2018, 10:52 AM
soggy_spinout
WWB 9mm was the only load that stopped my first Gen2 G19. And years later it did it again with my Gen3 G19 and P229R. Haven't shot that crap since, now going on at least a decade. Others I know have had the same issues with the cheap Federal ammo--sometimes boxed in white, sometimes in burgundy--created just for their big box store retailers.

I blame Walmart and their unceremonious habit of beating down their suppliers' prices. Now every retailer does the same. Manufacturers have to recover their costs somewhere; may as well cheapen up the product wherever they can. If your gun--P365 or otherwise--can run the junk, by all means do so. Me, I don't bother and stick with better loads. Even with those I can often find better pricing that beats WWB at Walmart or Fred Meyer (Kroger), and all without having to resort to my employee discounts.
May 29, 2018, 11:10 AM
sns3guppy
quote:
Originally posted by WARPIG602:


Didnt use to be that way. WWB was "the" range ammo. Ive been using CCI/Speer for about 6 years now, sprinkled in with some PMC Bronze when its cheap. No complaints.


I've been using it for a long time without complaint. I've always found it to be far more consistent than other ammunition, but then it's rare that I have any ammunition related issues. The only that I can recall off hand were some extraction failures with blazer aluminum.
May 29, 2018, 12:12 PM
Warhorse
I too remember WWB being fine range food. I bought a few thousand ~10 years ago or so in 9mm and .40, saved the brass for reloading. Still reloading a lot of that same brass. Sitting in my ammo locker is 300 rounds 9mm, and 300 rounds .40 all WWB, just saving it for a dry spell in case I need it.


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July 19, 2018, 05:15 PM
Brianm14
I don't think one can count on cheaper plain box ammunition to be consistent from lot to lot, and year to year, any more. Falling ammunition prices work against this. Something has to give, and QC is one of those things. At least that is my experience.

You can have great luck for a few years, and then have a poorly performing box or case. Has anyone else been getting the occasional crushed or crumpled brass case, or mis-seated bullet? I now visually inspect every one of my carry rounds, and check them for a smooth fit into the chamber of the dismounted barrel.

Whatever the ammunition, it is a good idea to keep the chamber, ramp, and extractor claw very clean and smooth. Also keep track of magazine performance.


Brian
July 19, 2018, 08:29 PM
JBP55
quote:
Originally posted by WARPIG602:
Didnt use to be that way. WWB was "the" range ammo. Ive been using CCI/Speer for about 6 years now, sprinkled in with some PMC Bronze when its cheap. No complaints.


I concur, I changed to 124gr. American Eagle. ammunition in 2010 after numerous shooters had bad primers from the same batch of 115gr. WWB.
July 19, 2018, 09:37 PM
TENWOLVES
WWB, has not been reliable for some time now, just as Winchester hasn't been what they were, WWB has been a cheaper choice up here, but has lost its following for reliable ammo...


P226 Scorpion, P225 A-1, P 226 SAO Legion, P229 Legion, P 22O Hunter SAO, P938, P320 full, P 320X Carry, P365 P365 XL. P365 SAS
July 20, 2018, 08:35 AM
molachi
I have shot around 300 to 400 rounds of WWB 115gr through my P365 with no problems.