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I am considering putting a mini red dot on my M&P 9mm 2.0 and have a few questions please. 1) What companies do you recommend or have used? 2) Is it possible to have the slide milled for a picatinny rail? 3) Some of the companies I have looked at require you to send the optic or have a specific red dot selected before they mill the slide. Does this mean that you can only use that slide with that one red dot or are there adapters if you want to use a different red dot? Thank you and have a good evening. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Democracy is 2 Wolves & a Lamb debating the lunch menu. Liberty is a well armed Lamb! | ||
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L&M Precision does great work. I have a slide on the way back from them now. 7 calendar day turnaround on mine. | |||
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Thanks for the info Bob RI. 7 days is great turnaround time. I will take a look at them. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Democracy is 2 Wolves & a Lamb debating the lunch menu. Liberty is a well armed Lamb! | |||
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ATEI. They are the OG of M&P slide milling. | |||
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Definitely ATEI. You can also purchase the RMR & tall sights from them when they do the milling. It'll come back, mounted & ready to go. They did my 2.0. Door-door was 9 days.  Rom 13:4 If you do evil, be afraid. For he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. | |||
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Thank you for sharing the picture and your pistol looks great but my only concern is that what happens if you want to get a different red dot? I imagine you have to then go out and buy a new slide and have it milled again. Is there anyone who mills a picatinny rail on a MP 2.0? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Democracy is 2 Wolves & a Lamb debating the lunch menu. Liberty is a well armed Lamb! | |||
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If you get the RMR cut on your slide, any RMR footprint sight will fit. Holosun comes to mind & I know there are a couple more that will fit. Rom 13:4 If you do evil, be afraid. For he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. | |||
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Will the vortex venom fit? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Democracy is 2 Wolves & a Lamb debating the lunch menu. Liberty is a well armed Lamb! | |||
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If it has the RMR footprint it will. I would suggest asking Vortex. They could give you a definitive answer. (I'm not familiar with the venom). Rom 13:4 If you do evil, be afraid. For he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. | |||
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Vortex does not make an RMR footprint optic. | |||
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I contacted Vortex but maybe I asked the wrong question. I asked if there red dots were classified as RMR's and I received the following answer: "if you are looking for which of our red dots are miniaturized red dots then are Viper, then an and razor red dots would all fit that description." What is an "RMR footprint optic?" Thank you ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Democracy is 2 Wolves & a Lamb debating the lunch menu. Liberty is a well armed Lamb! | |||
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The term RMR has sadly migrated from describing a specific Trijicon optic with a very specific mounting footprint to describing a class of optics. To the detriment of us all. Since in this area the specifics actually matter -a lot. I don't do vortex but DaBigBR gave you the answer. If you want to ping Vortex the exact question you need to ask is "Does the vortex venom use the Trijicon RMR mounting footprint". But in the end that won't matter. If you want to mount a vortex venom you need to find someone who will mill your slide to fit that optic. I'm a glock and sig guy so I don't have any ideas about the M&P but if you post the optic and the gun with specifics I'm sure someone can tell you who might do it. To address one of your questions what happens after you mill your slide for one footprint and you want to use another with a different footprint then most of the time you have to start over. There are exceptions. For example its possible to inexpensively convert the Sig romeo mounting to RMR. And in some of the other cases third parties have made adapter plates. And mfg. have universal systems like the Glock MOS that have conversion plates (and there are third parties that make those like unity). For the M&P I have no knowledge if any of that is meaningful, you will have to check, its not a gun I use. Hope that helps. “So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.” | |||
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Quite frankly, if you want to have an options for every option in the book, you should just get an MOS Glock. | |||
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Thank you for the helpful reply hrcjon. I obtained more information from Vortex and received the following: "Our Viper and venom use the same footprint as the Burris Fastfire and the Docter optics, while our Razor uses the same footprint as a CMore.." The MOS Glock sounds like the solution I am looking for but unfortunately Glock's do not work for me so for my semiauto's my main ones are my p SIG's and my M&P's. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Democracy is 2 Wolves & a Lamb debating the lunch menu. Liberty is a well armed Lamb! | |||
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Just mill what you have for an actual Trijicon RMR. Get an RMR type 2 06. Trust me on that. Took lots of time and money and ammo to conclude that. It is by far the best of the available red dots for slide mounting. It is also the most common footprint so your options will be better for the future, but I can't imagine that you are likely to need to switch footprints to chase the next best thing. Both the M&P and pseries Sigs can be easily milled for a real Trijicon RMR. Get a set of suppressor height sights and go shoot. You will be totally happy. Good luck. “So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.” | |||
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I will point out that Smith has come out with CORE versions of a few of its M&P 2.0 models. If you didn't know CORE is Smith's version of Glock's MOS system. The gon it cut with a single mounting format, and comes with plates that mount on that format, each of which supports a different optic format. I think they supply six different plates. Most of the optics on the market will be supported by one of the plates. This allows the shooter to adapt a gun with a single slide cut to multiple different formats. Of course, this requires replacing the gun (or adding another one.) Julie Golob did a video on one if these... Link to original video: https://youtu.be/T4B4nB7UZEY | |||
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Thank you for the specific advice it is quite helpful. I am sure you are correct. I just have to come to terms with spending more on the red dot than I paid for the gun. Have a great day. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Democracy is 2 Wolves & a Lamb debating the lunch menu. Liberty is a well armed Lamb! | |||
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