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As in the title, what features do you guys think will make an appearance on the next iteration of Gaston's Perfection? What features do you hope for? Here is my list: 1. Standard Glock Performance Trigger or at least GPT trigger shoe - (I really do think the GPT is an improvement, but I shoot the standard Glock trigger very well anyway. Frankly, I care more about the GPT shoe itself, which is a night-and-day improvement over the old shoe.) 2. Full 1913 rail - (I don't care one way or another about this one, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it.) 3. No thumb divot/rest - (The removal of the finger grooves was an improvement on the Gen5, but I also would have liked to see the little thumb groove removed as well.) 4. Blended back straps - (The additional back straps are inconsequential to me either way, but I think they'd do well to make a grip frame where they are actually removable/replaceable instead of just sitting semi-flush on top of the grip.) Formerly known as tigerbloodwinning | ||
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I like your number 4, which other manufacturers have done - like on the new HK cc9 or they can just extend the beaver tail, like on the clones. | |||
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This would only be doable on all models if they were produced in the US. The thumb divot is necessary on many of the smaller Glocks in order to qualify for enough import points for the ATF to deem them to be legally importable. That's why the thumb rests were first introduced with the Gen 2.5 G26s, and then carried over to all Gen 3s. The thumb divots qualify them as having a "target grip", which requires the presence of a "contoured thumb rest", and thus they score 5 extra import points towards the 75 minimum to be legally importable. Since size and weight make up the bulk of the points, those extra 5 can make an important difference on the smaller Glocks. Same reason why many of the imported Glocks come in to the country with adjustable sights, which are then removed and normal rear sights installed once they arrive stateside, but before they go to distributors. That scores them another 10 points for "click adjustable target sights". And why the non-full-sized Glocks come with serrated triggers instead of smooth. That's another 2 points for having a "target trigger". Here's the ATF's import scoring system for handguns: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/d...f-form-4590/download However, Glock already produces all of their G42/G43 models here in the US, since because of their size and/or caliber they wouldn't be importable otherwise. So it may not be that much of a burden to also switch 100% of their compact/subcompact production for the US market to their US factory as well. They produce a good chunk of the Glocks destined for the US market in the US these days anyways. | |||
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Optic ready becoming the de facto standard, which it nearly is these days with most of the Gen5s. -MG | |||
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You are totally correct about the reason for the thumb groove. However, I don’t think the ATF enforces everything consistently (sometimes being more relaxed, other times being more strict). I think they just do whatever the hell they feel like. For example, the Gen3 G26 only adds up to 72 points (IIRC from the last time I tallied them up). Did the ATF just say “close enough”? Were there originally target sights? If so, why then are they allowed to be removed, but the serrated trigger has to stay? The Gen5 compacts don’t have the serrated triggers anymore. I always assumed it was because of the standard Marksman barrel counting as an additional target/sporting feature. However, there’s no mention of barrels on the point system list. There are also several inconsistencies between the importation of the Walther PDP and H&K VP9 for example. The VP9 seemingly received stricter treatment. I could go on, but all of it points to much more going on behind the scenes than we know about and I highly doubt that it’s all regular. It seems more like a negotiation. Formerly known as tigerbloodwinning | |||
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I agree. Hopefully the market will have started to go towards standardizing a footprint by then too. Formerly known as tigerbloodwinning | |||
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Steel night sights, standard please! The plastic sights are a mystery to me! End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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Current Shadow Systems Foundational Series Guns have all of these features for under 700, slightly more, (by about 30 dollars), than current Glock MOS models. Frankly for the money, you're getting way more gun with the Shadow Systems gun. I was on the Glock platform since '99, and switched to Shadow Systems a couple of years ago with ZERO regrets. For me it was the Gen6 "upgrade."This message has been edited. Last edited by: Sig Sauer: For Hire, "Kachi wa saya no naka ni ari" ("Victory comes while the sword is still in the scabbard") | |||
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I would like a grip texture similar to the Walther PDP or the Springfield Eschelon. Also, direct-mount optic options, no plates and decent co-witness. | |||
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Would be nice to see them do this, then design the next gen completely around bypassing the import points system altogether. Would be win for everyone all-around. No funky features baked in from the design stage, the consumer gets more of what we want and less of what we don't, Glock gets to deal with the headache of possibly needing to expand production capacity once instead of screwing around with installing weird stuff to export it and then changing it out after import, and we get more manufacturing jobs. ______________________________________________ Carthago delenda est | |||
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Would anyone care if it was modular (removable FCU) or nah? Formerly known as tigerbloodwinning | |||
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I'd love to see a chasis system...like the P320 | |||
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Misanthropic Philanthrope |
A factory installed optic that sees into the future. A 100-round standard magazine. A fully compensated slide and barrel with integrated suppressor. ___________________________ Originally posted by Psychobastard: Well, we "gave them democracy"... not unlike giving a monkey a loaded gun. | |||
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second vote for a chassis system and...a manual safety, i know, i know, it will never happen LOL thanks, shawn Semper Fi, ---->>> EXCUSE TYPOS<<<--- | |||
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War Damn Eagle! |
For God's sake already, undercut the trigger guard!  (Preferably a double undercut.) +1 on factory fiber optic sights, or just better factory sights in general. | |||
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BINGO!!!! on the trigger guard. I'll even go with a +1 on better sights as well. ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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Why? with a small punch, the trigger assembly comes right out. Why complicate things when they already work so damn well. ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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Changing out the trigger is one of the most popular Glock mods. Changing to a FCU/chassis system like the P320's would be a downgrade, IMO. Now if it were like Zev's OZ9 chassis where the trigger is as easily swapped from the serialized component as it is in a Glock frame, then that's something I wouldn't mind. | |||
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I agree with the S.S. having more options for the money and you can get them cheaper than that now. I bought a MR920 Foundation for $429 +shipping on Gunbroker. They do address the Glock options we all want but some of their models are priced kind of high for the options you get. | |||
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