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Over the years I've shot and owned a lot of different 92's.


There is absolutely no doubt the 92 is arguably one of the best full size 9mm handguns of our time. Out of all the DA/SA offerings out there I personally think the 92 is the king of the hill. I wanted to share my experience and what 92 pistol I think offers the best bang for the buck. Most gun buyers want the "do it all - out of the box" gun, but lets be honest. We tend to make subtle changes to the gun to fit our needs. There is one pistol that I consistently go back to, no matter what other 92 variant it's compared to. That's the 92A1, hands down. Yes, before you start barking my personal 92A1 does have a beveled magwell and checkering. Why doesn't Beretta offer that from the factory is beyond me. However it shouldn't be the deal killer. Years ago I sought after the Brigadier types for one reason - replaceable sights. A 92 without a replaceable front sight no longer occupies my inventory. That isn't to say that those guns aren't great, they just aren't what I would consider to optimal for my personal preferences.

The slide and frame dimensions aren't compatible with the standard 92's, but I have yet to swap any of my frames or slides. That argument just isn't practical for me.


I have to be honest that I was a little skeptical on the 92A1 at first because it didn't seem to be favored. I'm glad I didn't listen, and gave this awesome pistol a chance. It is my go to 92 variant.

92A1 in action -


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I have yet to own one, it is on the list. Sadly i really like the more rare frame mounted safeties. My thumb can not easily reach the slide safety, so i have to use my off hand, making the gripping process longer.
 
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The 92 is a great pistol. I currently own a 92fs Centurion and am not about to sell it.


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I recently purchased my first, a pre-owned Wilson Combat 92G that was on consignment at my indoor range. I couldn't pass it up.
 
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Beretta 92FS. First gun I ever bought, mid-1990s. Used for most of the training courses I attended around that time. Never malfunctioned. Always did my best shooting with it, despite being too big for my hands.

A few mods...

PT night sights by IWI (now dead...rear sights have been blacked out and I painted the front sight fluorescent green...I may swap out the rear sight with a Wilson in the near future)
Wolff Border Patrol trigger return spring
Harts Recoil Reducer recoil spring guide rod (Anyone remember those? I'm actually going to replace it with a regular steel guide rod at some point)

I'll probably do a G conversion when I get the chance. Probably do a D hammer spring swap, too. Wilson short-reach trigger and VZ grips would be nice to try.

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I own several, and carried a 92FS/M9 for several years. The Beretta 92 has one of the best out of the box double action triggers, on par with Sig.

That said, I don't care much for Berettas. They're accurate, and they're very reliable, but fairly bulky pistols for a 9mm. I own several in .40 (96's), which isn't kind to the frames.

I never saw a 92 in Iraq that was in very good shape. Most worn out junk.

A finely tuned Wilson 92 is very different from a run of the mill out of the box service pistol that's been shot more than a little.

Beretta makes a good pistol. I wouldn't expect it to have the longevity or durability of other pistols. It's got a failing reputation in service for reliability, as they're getting very worn out.
 
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My first firearm was a 92FS... Soon after I sold it and became a Sig nut. I recently picked up a 92A1 and realized how much I like it. Then I got a compact, and 92 INOX Vertec. The Vertec is awesome! Like you I think it's the best DA/SA platform.

I always like to watch your videos, makes me realize how much I suck! Lol

What's your take on the Wilson Combat 92? Worth it or just get a 92 and modify




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That said, I don't care much for Berettas. They're accurate, and they're very reliable, but fairly bulky pistols for a 9mm. I own several in .40 (96's), which isn't kind to the frames.

A set of Wilson Slim grips will change the bulk dramatically.

I never saw a 92 in Iraq that was in very good shape. Most worn out junk.

I rarely saw a well maintained M9, that will be with any service handgun for the military. They will not be maintained as per the recommendations.

A finely tuned Wilson 92 is very different from a run of the mill out of the box service pistol that's been shot more than a little.

Beretta makes a good pistol. I wouldn't expect it to have the longevity or durability of other pistols. It's got a failing reputation in service for reliability, as they're getting very worn out.

Again any service pistol with tenure will be worn out. I bet you'll hear the same about the new Army sidearm in years to come. The average battalion weapons supply aren't in tip top shape. They are gonna see hard use. Another contributing factor is the military's lack of proper maintenance on pistols.


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I always like to watch your videos, makes me realize how much I suck! Lol
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What's your take on the Wilson Combat 92? Worth it or just get a 92 and modify
Having the WC Brig for a little while now. I like it, I think for what you get it's a good price. I do prefer a modified 92A1 to it. Its kinda sad, the WC Brig was exciting at first. That wore off quickly, for me.


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Just how awesome would it be if they came out with a 10mm version? I imagine that they would sell a couple
 
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If 40 is causing frame issues, I can't imagine one living long in 10mm. Especially with some of the hotter ammo.


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Personally, I'd rather see them bring back the Type M compact single-stack 9mm.



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Harts Recoil Reducer recoil spring guide rod (Anyone remember those? I'm actually going to replace it with a regular steel guide rod at some point)


Yes, I remember those! IIRC, it's a mercury-filled tube with some BB's inside. From what I remember reading about them in the early '90's, they did a very good job dampening recoil.


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Harts Recoil Reducer recoil spring guide rod (Anyone remember those? I'm actually going to replace it with a regular steel guide rod at some point)


Yes, I remember those! IIRC, it's a mercury-filled tube with some BB's inside. From what I remember reading about them in the early '90's, they did a very good job dampening recoil.


Yep. Those are the ones. Though in the 92FS I could only tell a difference with +P, and even then it was a small difference.



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What kind of grips are these?


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They are VZ Grips.
 
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I have yet to own one, it is on the list. Sadly i really like the more rare frame mounted safeties. My thumb can not easily reach the slide safety, so i have to use my off hand, making the gripping process longer.


Or, just swap in a G kit so no need to manipulate it except to drop a SA hammer to DA position.
 
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Beretta should have gotten rid of the hated safety and made the G conversion the standard configuration years ago. Why on earth didn't they do that with the 92A1?


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