Have you been reading this thread?

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Originally posted by jljones:

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Who wants Glock to just start cranking out Gen 2s again? I'm sure we have a few.

What would be gained by going back generations?

Glock will watch the market and when sales, and dealer requests for the 3rd Gen guns slow enough, they will consider stopping or moving it to special order only production.

Glock also keeps tabs on their Gov/LE contracts and what Gens they are using. When the 3rd Gens are up for replacement, Glock will try and push them to the most current models.

Once those large contracts either move up generations, or go with another platform, Glock will most likely abandon that generation.

It's a matter of dollars. The R&D is done, and it doesn't take much to change CNC programs, or Polymer injections plates on the machines.

Generations being discontinued is a much slower process now that is was between the 2nd and 3rd Gen guns.

There are way more 3rd Gens in circulation now than there were 2nd Gens when the 3rd Gens came out. It was also when 40 Caliber was becoming popular and that gave a strong push for the 3rd Gens as Glock marketed them as updated and improved to better handle the 40 caliber round.

The Generation game is now based on feature sets, and there are still a ton a folks that prefer the 3rd Gens guns over the new ones. The 3rd Gen will probably be around for a while.




TXPO

Yeah, the gen 3 Glock came on the market 21 years ago this month. That's staying power.

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Have you been reading this thread?

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Originally posted by jljones:

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Who wants Glock to just start cranking out Gen 2s again? I'm sure we have a few.

What would be gained by going back generations?

Yes, I have. This is why I asked the question.

gen3 Glocks are allowed in CA. No gen4 or gen5. As long as their is a CA market, Glock will always be making gen3s. Are gen4s allowed in other places like MA?

There are apparently a lot of people who want to buy guns exactly like Glock was making 25 years ago. They don't see anything introduced since then as an improvement.

Note, I'm not one of them.

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Originally posted by jljones:

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Have you been reading this thread?

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Originally posted by jljones:

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Who wants Glock to just start cranking out Gen 2s again? I'm sure we have a few.

What would be gained by going back generations?

Yes, I have. This is why I asked the question.

IMHO, nothing is so good that it can't be improved upon and made better, or we would all still be driving model T's. Company's can also cut corners out of greed and increasing their bottom line to the point of ruining once good products.

Cool, but Glock no longer interests me much...to many others out there just as solid.

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Originally posted by bubbatime:
On August 1, Glock introduced their newly redesigned Glock 17, Glock 19, and Glock 26 gen 5 pistols. They now come standard with front slide serrations. They also removed the hated and despised front half moon cut out on the front of the grip. Check out the Glock website for pictures of the new pistols. Glock lovers should rejoice. Looks like some nice upgrades.

Ive been rocking my Gen 3 G19 for ten almost 15 years now just WAITING for Glock to get the gen 5 G19 right. Looks like I will be in the market for a new G19.

Wonder what the idea behind the half-moon cutout was? Glad its gone.

My favorite thing about Glock is they are constantly improving their products.

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Wonder what the idea behind the half-moon cutout was? Glad its gone.

The explanation I’ve always heard is that it’s there in case you have a malfunction that necessitates ripping the mag free. Problem is, for how rare those are vs the irritation they cause so many shooters, it’s a stupid feature, not to mention the fact that most folks in conversations I’ve had about it grab the magazine baseplate from the sides to accomplish that task instead the front and back.

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:

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Wonder what the idea behind the half-moon cutout was? Glad its gone.

The explanation I’ve always heard is that it’s there in case you have a malfunction that necessitates ripping the mag free. Problem is, for how rare those are vs the irritation they cause so many shooters, it’s a stupid feature, not to mention the fact that most folks in conversations I’ve had about it grab the magazine baseplate from the sides to accomplish that task instead the front and back.

Exactly. Look at the half-moon relief cuts on HK, S&W, CZ, etc....they're on the sides, not the front/back...

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Originally posted by Chowser:
gen3 Glocks are allowed in CA. No gen4 or gen5. As long as their is a CA market, Glock will always be making gen3s. Are gen4s allowed in other places like MA?

We were having this discussion recently, one of the guys in the group asked why all the generations of Glock were still out there, the main reason we concluded was the previous generations were approved in CA and are still being made is to have a product to sell in CA,
Glock isn't going to pay CA for rules designed to penalize gun makers and create tax revenue to get on the list with the other Generations.

Sure they'd love to end the production of 3 types of firearms for the same model to streamline production, at the same time the tooling for Gen 3 is well paid for by this time so the profit per gun is higher..

My next Glock will probably be the G17M that is being sold by Lipseys.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Oh, Jesus. Enough with the freakin' front serrations on the slides. Unnecessary and ugly. I hope it's just a fad, like hooked trigger guuards on auto pistols. This feature is just about as useless as that stuff.

Agreed. I despise front serrations. Glocks, 1911's, all of 'em.

Specifically, this was an FBI requirement for the guns that became the M models. The Gen 5 is the civilian release of the M line, so Glock kept the cut.

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:

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Wonder what the idea behind the half-moon cutout was? Glad its gone.

The explanation I’ve always heard is that it’s there in case you have a malfunction that necessitates ripping the mag free. Problem is, for how rare those are vs the irritation they cause so many shooters, it’s a stupid feature, not to mention the fact that most folks in conversations I’ve had about it grab the magazine baseplate from the sides to accomplish that task instead the front and back.

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Originally posted by HRK:

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Originally posted by Chowser:
gen3 Glocks are allowed in CA. No gen4 or gen5. As long as their is a CA market, Glock will always be making gen3s. Are gen4s allowed in other places like MA?

We were having this discussion recently, one of the guys in the group asked why all the generations of Glock were still out there, the main reason we concluded was the previous generations were approved in CA and are still being made is to have a product to sell in CA,
Glock isn't going to pay CA for rules designed to penalize gun makers and create tax revenue to get on the list with the other Generations.

Sure they'd love to end the production of 3 types of firearms for the same model to streamline production, at the same time the tooling for Gen 3 is well paid for by this time so the profit per gun is higher..

It's the fact that CA requires that new models have to have "Morcostamping" to be approved for sale here. Old models were grandfathered in. LEO can buy new models and people that move here like Military personnel can bring them with them. Once here they can sale them via PPT. New models typically sale for at least twice the price they sale for in Free states. Check out the prices of what new modes go for on Calguns.

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Originally posted by jljones:

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Originally posted by ether:

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Originally posted by jljones:
I wonder what other changes were made in the “redesign”?

This has my interest peaked.

"Piqued" I'm not tryin to embarrass ya, man. We're here for each other.

I really do not care.

You really do not care about what? Misrepresenting us as a community of Podunk illiterates? This is on the internet. Please sharpen up and humbly learn from criticism, as the rest of us do.

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Originally posted by HRK:

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Originally posted by Chowser:
gen3 Glocks are allowed in CA. No gen4 or gen5. As long as their is a CA market, Glock will always be making gen3s. Are gen4s allowed in other places like MA?

We were having this discussion recently, one of the guys in the group asked why all the generations of Glock were still out there, the main reason we concluded was the previous generations were approved in CA and are still being made is to have a product to sell in CA

That's the same reason why Dan Wesson still offers the CBOB. Their newer bobtail commander 1911s aren't CA approved.

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Originally posted by Chowser:
gen3 Glocks are allowed in CA. No gen4 or gen5. As long as their is a CA market, Glock will always be making gen3s. Are gen4s allowed in other places like MA?

What Chowser said.

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Originally posted by Bow Commander:

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Oh, Jesus. Enough with the freakin' front serrations on the slides. Unnecessary and ugly. I hope it's just a fad, like hooked trigger guuards on auto pistols. This feature is just about as useless as that stuff.

Agreed. I despise front serrations. Glocks, 1911's, all of 'em.

I HATE them on 1911's, and I'm not a Glock fanboy and don't own one nor care for the front serrations in general. Come to think of it.....none of my 20 +/- pistols have front slide serrations that I can think of. Wait, one does, a S+W 1911 that I haven't shot in 5 years.