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| Big Stack |
Thanks for the update guys. | |||
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| The Whack-Job Whisperer  |
We got four more in yesterday - out of supposedly sixteen that were "...shipping June 17th!....". Our Sig rep is a lying POS though. Cant believe anything he says. These four P365s came in the new smaller gray box too. With the arrival of these four our waiting list shrinks down to 8 more needed. The Ruger EC9 is still selling as fast as we can get them. The G43? Not so much. Regards 18DAI 7+1 Rounds of hope and change | |||
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| Big Stack |
Bumping this back up for any updates. I have a small data point to put out. I was in a Cabela's in PA this week. They didn't have any. | |||
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| addicted to trailing-throttle oversteer |
We've had to resort to haggling with distribution channels to get any in, and even then it only amounted to a paltry handful (6 or 7). They did all sell relatively fast but it also did seem as if the mad rush isn't quite as fervent as it was only a month or so ago. Either that our prospective buyers are just tired of hearing "we're out of stock". Or maybe it really IS true that the flow of chatter on the internet IS a powerful thing. I suspect that it was really due to the former. We're in the usual summer doldrums right now. Sales are generally flat for us with handguns this time of year; most of our customers are looking at new shotguns and a different caliber bolt gun. But there are gun models that are still doing well (in no particular order): G19, all generations still in production G26 G43 with factory-installed night sights G20, again it's the hunters, hikers and fishermen VP9SK VP9 M&P 9 Compact 4", though surprisingly we've only sold ONE 3.6". A lot of 'this is the one' chatter, but they never come back to close out the deal. 1911s in general PPS M2 EC9 380 EZ SR22 Buck Mark And the ones that have gone deathly cold for us: Shield 2.0 in 9mm and 40 G43, seems to be in spurts, and almost always with the factory 3-dot NS. Everything else is flatlining. Ruger LC9S, any flavor Security 9 Any Beretta model whose name doesn't start with a '92' or 'M9' M&P 2.0 fullsize Any Glock chambered in 357SIG or 40S&W, except the G23. Well at least we aren't sitting on any of the 45 GAP guns. Walther PPQ and P99 CZ except for the Scorpion EVO Springfield, except for their 1911s Caniks classic P-SIGs SIG 320 series, except for the X-Frames 938 and Micro 9, kinda tied at the hip Ruger Mk IV 22/45 Lites SW22 Victory | |||
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Interesting feedback, Thank you
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| Big Stack |
Soggy, Lots of good info in there. Thanks. That's what this thread is supposed to be about.
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| Big Stack |
Figured I'd give this another bump to see if there's been any change. There's now been a lot of water under the bridge as far as issue with the P365, and a few fixes seem to have been worked in. How has all this played out across the gun counter? | |||
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| Donate Blood, Save a Life!  |
I was just thinking of this thread for those who still haven't found one after receiving my daily PSA e-mail trying to entice me to spend all of my money. This time it's their Halloween Deal, the P365 for $499.99 with free shipping. https://palmettostatearmory.co...tm_content=12%3a00PM P.S. Not associated with PSA other than being an occasional customer. *** "Aut viam inveniam aut faciam (I will either find a way or make one)." -- Hannibal Barca | |||
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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
Yeah, I need another 12 months or so before I'll consider it. | |||
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| Member |
One local store received a shipment of 20 P365s yesterday. Wonder how long the'll last.... Jerry | |||
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| addicted to trailing-throttle oversteer |
Not much has really changed for us on the 365 front; still hard to find on the distribution end and SIG has been nonexistent when it comes to deliveries. In terms of its 'direct competition', the Shield 2.0 has perked up since summer and is again selling well. The G43 family has been doing better as well, though it seems like it's the third choice for many shoppers these days. We shall see how the new subcomps from Walther (PPQ SC) and CZ (P-10SC) will affect things, but I suspect that those will only impact the sales of 'traditional' SC double-stack guns, like the G26, 320SC and VP9SK, and not the 365. I'm not going to go into as much detail about the rest like I did in summer, but I will say that I wish I had the foresight to have ordered in more USP45 Elites when HK-USA had them available. And ordered more of the Langdon 92 Elite LTTs. As for some of the rest: Sales up: ANYTHING 10mm Shield 2.0 9mm VP9, both full and SK G43 (all versions) M&P 2.0 9 Compact (thanks to S&W sales pricing incentives) Taurus G2 versions MkIV, particularly the 22/45 Lites SR1911, especially the 6700 full size CZ P-07 Kimber K6S, all versions (shockingly we're sold out now) P229 PPS M2 Sales steady: G19 (most versions) LCP/LCPII Sales downers: G19x G45 (yeah, hard to believe but most shoppers are looking for CCWs) G19 Gen5 MOS SIG 320 P226 P220 Legion DA/SA M&P 2.0 full-size P-10C Magnum revolvers | |||
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The guy behind the guy |
Interesting that 10mm is selling. I like to see that! Also interesting to see the P-07 selling. Wonder what that's all about? I like the P-07, just surprised others do too I guess. | |||
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| Big Stack |
Thanks Soggy. This is proving useful beyond seeing how the P365 is doing. | |||
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No change for me... I'm still waiting for my LGS to get mine.  God bless America. | |||
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| Big Stack |
Have you tried another vendor?
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| Member |
Oh, I know there are other vendors out there. I guess I'm just kinda loyal to my LGS. He takes good care of my needs/wants, and is great to deal with. And I'm in no particular hurry.  God bless America. | |||
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| Member |
Interesting to see the PPS M2 seems to be doing well across the seasons and against newer competition from the Shield 2.0 and P365. | |||
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| Rail-less and Tail-less |
I think it has a lot to do with the sub $300 price tag. The PPS M2 can be had for as little as $270 online. It’s interesting because the original PPS was considered a premium carry gun when it first came out. I paid around $600 for one when they were first released. The original PPS did feel like a better quality gun to me and I have owned several of both designs. _______________________________________________ Use thumb-size bullets to create fist-size holes. | |||
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| The Unknown Stuntman  |
I can appreciate that. In fact, I think my guy kind of saved the day. I was all about them when they came out. Couldn't wait to get one. He said to wait until they came back down to earth - this summer or so - before he could give me my price on one. So I did, just kept packing my good old G26. Then the issues started, drag marks on mags, sticky strikers, etc. He's got plenty now, and would sell me one at 'my price' but with what I've seen and read, I'm not so sure I'm still in the market. As far as sales, what do you consider competition? In my opinion, the G43 is the only thing even close. A Shield or PPS or LC9S or PF9 or whatever may be in the same class, but at half-ish the price, how is that really competition? A 365 at $549 or a LC9S at $239 or a Shield at $299 really aren't the same thing to me. That's like saying a Chevy Malibu and a BMW 3 Series are competition because they're both compact cars. My guy moves a lot of 365s, probably two or three per week. But he'll tell you he moves ten to fifteen of the bargain 9s, things like the PF-9 and the LC9 (and its variations). | |||
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| Member |
If Sig could ever fill up the supply pipeline there would likely be an effect on the competitor's wares. The other factor that could be affecting sales of the P365 is the continuing to be perceived performance issues that SIG should acknowledge and get them remedied post haste. The various gun sites on the internet is loaded with reports of problems with the P365. Here is an example of a fellow that wants to love the P365, but the performance is sub-par. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYCCQjx0M8M | |||
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