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I understand where 3/4 flap is coming from..... I too, enjoy learning about different designs.

I know nothing more about this gun then has already been said.

I am intrigued by the unique design but wouldn't actually buy one unless it met with many positive reviews.

(I actually own an HK P7 because of it's different design.)
 
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Timely thread as I was looking at an R51 last week at the LGS. Seemed like an interesting piece but ended up finding a Ruger Super Redhawk Alaskan Toklat and I didn't have enough cash on me to get both. Sounds like I got lucky.
 
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I shot a rental at my range a few weeks back.
It felt like one of those toy guns that shoot the suction cup darts and I've used staplers with better triggers.
 
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The only good that came out of the R51 debacle is that its failure contributed to the dismantling of Freedom Group. However its successor, Remington Outdoor Company, hasn't exactly had a string of resounding success stories. The R1 has been a sales dud, though after shooting one I don't think that it's anything close to being the disaster that too many Youtubers slapped on its flanks. And too often we send newly made and sold 870s back for service on behalf of their irate owners.

As for any personal experiences with the R51: I've yet to shoot the Gen 2 and since we don't sell them have no reason, curiosity or desire to do so. But several years ago I did get a chance to TRY to get a Gen 1 to work before our shop sent it back to Remington on behalf of one of our customers. It didn't work (extraction failures, double feeds), and that customer got his money back from Remington instead of accepting a straight-across swap for the R1 1911. Frankly I hadn't seen a Gen 2 in over a year until one of our regulars transferred one in before Thanksgiving.

This customer has a penchant for cheap and crappy guns (sometimes mutually exclusive, other times not so much), and some internet retailer was offering the Gen 2 R51 dirt cheap. Exactly in his wheelhouse. His subsequent range report wasn't exactly the most confidence inspiring though its overall performance sounded more promising than what the Gen 1 was ever capable of. According to him, his jammed on the first round of its first magazine but then proceeded to fire without further heartache the remaining 99 rounds put through the gun that day. He labeled it a success and will probably never shoot the thing again, as he's off looking for the next cheapo gun to buy.
 
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Originally posted by soggy_spinout:
The only good that came out of the R51 debacle is that its failure contributed to the dismantling of Freedom Group. However its successor, Remington Outdoor Company, hasn't exactly had a string of resounding success stories. The R1 has been a sales dud, though after shooting one I don't think that it's anything close to being the disaster that too many Youtubers slapped on its flanks. And too often we send newly made and sold 870s back for service on behalf of their irate owners.

As for any personal experiences with the R51: I've yet to shoot the Gen 2 and since we don't sell them have no reason, curiosity or desire to do so. But several years ago I did get a chance to TRY to get a Gen 1 to work before our shop sent it back to Remington on behalf of one of our customers. It didn't work (extraction failures, double feeds), and that customer got his money back from Remington instead of accepting a straight-across swap for the R1 1911. Frankly I hadn't seen a Gen 2 in over a year until one of our regulars transferred one in before Thanksgiving.

This customer has a penchant for cheap and crappy guns (sometimes mutually exclusive, other times not so much), and some internet retailer was offering the Gen 2 R51 dirt cheap. Exactly in his wheelhouse. His subsequent range report wasn't exactly the most confidence inspiring though its overall performance sounded more promising than what the Gen 1 was ever capable of. According to him, his jammed on the first round of its first magazine but then proceeded to fire without further heartache the remaining 99 rounds put through the gun that day. He labeled it a success and will probably never shoot the thing again, as he's off looking for the next cheapo gun to buy.


This is a great post. I laughed thru it all, as it reminded me of working in a gun shop back 30 years ago.

I have to admit tho at times as you suggest, cheapos pan out.

I bought a Ruger Gen 1 LC9. I don't normally part with my money for stuff like that but I figured what the heck. I reckoned I'd shoot it to destruction in a couple 3 hundred rounds and that would be that.

About a thousand rounds later it is on my hip and goes everywhere with me, truly one of the guns I would least want to part with.


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let me start by saying, I like weird guns.

I handed it at shot last week and my overall impression was the one on the show floor seemed alright but unremarkable. I might buy one if the price is low enough just to have something in an auto that's different.
 
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I like all guns as well as anyone.

I wouldn't buy that piece of crap R51 if for no other reason than it would encourage Remington to keep putting out crap because someone is buying it. If

I want an R51, I'll try to find an original.



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