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P365 Macro

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August 11, 2022, 06:48 PM
drabfour
P365 Macro
quote:
Originally posted by Slippery Pete:
Pretty sure I heard Glover saying something about helping develop this new Sig release ported carry gun that will change everything. If I'm a betting man you'll have his promo out soon.

Sig has reached far and wide coordinating this sucker.


Believe he was taking about the SIG Executive Elite P320 he was working on. Initially taking limited orders from his Patreon subscribers something like 25 or 250 can’t remember with a price of $2500 Eek And then later to be released from the general public.
August 11, 2022, 08:19 PM
sigarms229
quote:
Ported barrel? Count me out.


It doesn't have a ported barrel. It has a comp'd slide, but the barrel doesn't have any porting.



Sometimes, you gotta roll the hard six
August 12, 2022, 02:40 AM
Jupiter
quote:
Originally posted by myrottiety:
Next up with be 365 macro w/ Tungsten Frame. Bet me...


You're close. I was able to get a sneak peak of a soon to be released version only available to a 3 letter agency (EPA) at this time. This unique pistol has a super heavy Tungsten steel long slide with lightweight frame that causes the shooters hand to reciprocate instead of the slide. This model also features a catalytic converter comp. that re-burns smoke from the pistol with each shot. Exciting times for Sig P365 owners for sure.


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August 12, 2022, 07:25 AM
marinemaster
A longer barrel probably in the next Macro XL will balance it better.
I just wonder as slim as it is what is the long term reliability.
I thought the original P365 was designed around the 10 round mag. Whenever the Macro XL will come out and it will it, is just pushing, stretching the boundaries of the original frame design. I don’t design these things just wander if it can handle it. Glock 19 and P320 has more polymer on the frame for what Macro XL will be.
August 12, 2022, 07:30 AM
snoris
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Yeah, Llama gave the same treatment to the Ruby.

Next up- the P365 Jumbo, followed by the Mega Jumbo and the trailer-mounted model (as yet to be named).

Let's see- the P365 Duo- that's two P365s welded together.

Myself, I'm gonna wait for the P365 Mega Jumbo Rainbow Titanium Scorpion Spectre Comp ZEV Tactical.


Does that include the GI Joe Kung-Fu Grip option?
August 12, 2022, 10:36 AM
oddball
quote:
Originally posted by elberettas:
I guess I'm getting old. Give me a P225 and P226 and I'm happy. None of the new stuff is appealing to me.



Yeah, my latest Sig is a MK-25 P226. Guess I'm a luddite of sorts.



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August 12, 2022, 10:40 AM
Ryanp225
The P365 will soon be available in everything from a pocket pistol to a carbine.
August 12, 2022, 11:19 AM
Slippery Pete
quote:
Originally posted by sigarms229:
It doesn't have a ported barrel. It has a comp'd slide, but the barrel doesn't have any porting.



quote:
Originally posted by drabfour:


I stand corrected on both counts. Ported slide? My position remains the same but, what is the purpose of this, serious question. Weight reduction? Does the barrel stop before the comp feature on the slide?

ETA, from one pic it looks like the barrel stops before the slide. How effective is such a thing?


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August 12, 2022, 12:24 PM
DanH
It’s a review of the P365 Spectre Comp but also has comparisons with only guns as well.


August 12, 2022, 12:57 PM
Edmond
Pass but I might be interested in a P365-15, it's a P365 but in AR-15 size. Or maybe a crew serve version of the P365, maybe it'll be the P365-CS.

But then again I don't change my synthetic oil every 3,000 miles because it's "cheap insurance."


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August 12, 2022, 02:58 PM
ArtOfTheSamurai
I applaud Sig for putting out a plethora of guns even though I don’t want one. I really like the Spectre Comp 365XL but the Macro doesn’t register in my radar. I will withhold judgement till I handle it at the gunshop. Hopefully they put one out as a rental.

Even if this is not a huge success, the P365 line with its innovation and modularity has been a home run. Add in what Sig is doing with military contracts, they have set themselves up for continued financial success despite an occasional flop. Not saying the Macro will be a flop but you get my drift.
August 12, 2022, 05:39 PM
Il Cattivo
quote:
Originally posted by marinemaster:
A longer barrel probably in the next Macro XL will balance it better.
I just wonder as slim as it is what is the long term reliability.

I may be a little obsessive, but what you're describing reminds me of the earliest P220s in 9mm despite the double column mag. I'd bet that if SIG manufactured that version of the 365 it would hold up fine. I'd also bet that sooner or later someone (besides just me) would take that longer top half and mate it to an XL lower half just to see how it shoots.
August 12, 2022, 11:24 PM
pedropcola
I don’t see how being slim would cause longevity issues. That makes no sense.

This gun is great. You guys are Luddites. With one fcu you can have a pocket gun all the way up to a duty sized gun. You want big, great. Small, also great. Comped sure. Optics plate separate from irons, got it.

This gun is about options. At 17+1 and slim it’s a G43X’s wet dream or what it wanted to be when it grew up.

I don’t need another fcu but I would buy the grip module and mags. I assume the bigger mags work fine in the smaller frames so if nothing else it gives the x grip adapter guys an easy next project.

This is a win. After owning 365’s for awhile a G19 feels fat. I know it isn’t but 2 extra rounds in a smaller slimmer package is a win. This is when the modularity rocket ship takes off.

I understand the racing stripes titanium rainbow comments but they are off the mark here.
August 13, 2022, 06:29 AM
JohnPL
Definitely a win in my book. I’ve carried a bunch of different options from the 229SAS Gen 2 down to the LCP .380. I wanted more capacity than the standard 365 and something I shoot much better with a larger grip. I wanted something slimmer than the 320 x carry. Just when I began looking at other options sig puts this thing out. Plan on picking one up and slapping a red dot on it!
August 13, 2022, 09:23 AM
keene1bj
It just depends if you prefer the 365 or the 320 platform. Personally, I prefer the shooting characteristics of the 365. The 365 is back on target much faster and has a better recoil impulse - I can run a 365xl with a Wilson grip faster than I can my 320xcarry with Wilson grip. It’s like stepping out of a Cadillac and into a Porsche. The 365 feels like it was made to go fast vs the 320 that is being hopped up to go fast ie, Cadillac. Again, all preference but the Macro is going to be great and will be more than a conceal carry gun for me.
August 13, 2022, 09:51 AM
parabellum
I'm going to wait for the P365 Mega Macro. A 32 round magazine is nothing to sneeze at.

'Course, after that they'll need to come out with a compact version. Call it the Mini Mega Macro.

The P365 Mini Mega Macro Spectre Comp is going to be the ultimate in maxed-out compactness. All of Instagram will envy you.
August 13, 2022, 10:15 AM
Lord Vaalic
I have always thought the 320 was a little too chunky for a 9mm. More version of the 365 isn't a bad thing.




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August 13, 2022, 11:18 AM
Il Cattivo
[FRANKLINROOSEVELT]The only thing to fear...is a return to the GOTM days.[/FRANKLINROOSEVELT]
August 13, 2022, 11:24 AM
sigarms229
quote:
How effective is such a thing?


The design is the same as on the P365 Spectre Comp. For that gun Sig claimed a 30% decrease in muzzle rise. Many gun reviewers on YouTube agreed that there was a bit less muzzle rise over a standard p365xl.

I have reserved one and hope to have it in hand by the middle of next week.

I’ve been very interested in the comp’d slide but was unwilling to drop over $1200 for one. Now adding this I can build any version I want around the comp’d slide if i choose to. Want more cocealabilitu I can put this slide onto a P365XL grip/fcu. Wearing a sweatshirt, I can go full p365 Macro.



Sometimes, you gotta roll the hard six
August 13, 2022, 11:38 AM
pedropcola
Funny thing is that I thought I was shooting a 365 with the X grip module faster and more accurately than I was shooting my bigger guns. I told myself I was mistaken, it wasn't possible that the smaller gun shot better in my hand. I had to be mistaken. Then I started running them side by side in match scenarios. It wasn't my imagination. The smaller slimmer grip was having a positive effect on my shooting. In short, the significantly smaller grip allowed me to have a much better grip on the gun and the improved shooting characteristics followed.

I get the angst. Sig is its own worst enemy. The optics of making a tiny gun and then continually making it bigger seems idiotic. In this case it is not though. This gun is ground breaking. With one FFL purchase you can have a tiny pocket gun or you can incrementally make it all the way up to a 17+1 gun. One fcu.

Thought of another way, how would this gun be thought of if it came out first as the big gun. Sold as a gun nearly the size of a G19, 2 extra rounds and slim. It might not stop the Earth's rotation but it would get some interest. Then take that gun and start offering smaller versions. All of a sudden the ridicule goes away. Oh hey, that's cool. This only seems silly because you took a tiny gun, its greatest feature, and made it big. Oh brother. Flip it around though, which they could have done, and it warrants zero ridicule.

This gun is a great gun. Even the angst on this thread is mostly silly or unfounded. How many times do we have to read that someone hates ported barrels? Lucky for them, this ain't a ported barrel. As for hanging stuff off of a gun, the easy answer is don't do it if you don't want it. I know many of you hate the idea of putting a 1 oz optic on your 365. I get it. Then I tried it. I can make hits, hits at speed, that I can't make with irons. Period. Yep it adds 1 oz to the gun, yep it is a tiny bit bigger in your waistband, yep you will hit things you couldn't before. I am not an early adapter kind of guy, red dots or whatever the next step is, are the future. They work incredibly well with a tiny set of drawbacks.

The integral comp works. I'm one of the guys who bought the Spectre Comp. It's a great gun as well.

As for the above, I use iron sights all the time as well. For most of my shooting they are more than adequate. On any given scenario, the dot guns are demonstrably more accurate and with practice just as fast.