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Apparently the Gen 5 G17/19 are available for preorder.

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https://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/430601935/m/5390046824

August 23, 2017, 03:25 PM
Gundawg
Apparently the Gen 5 G17/19 are available for preorder.
poster floating around showing the changes, could be interesting. DLC coating, new rifling, ambi slide stop, no grooves, flared mag well


August 23, 2017, 03:34 PM
soggy_spinout
quote:
Originally posted by Gundawg:
poster floating around showing the changes, could be interesting. DLC coating, new rifling, ambi slide stop, no grooves, flared mag well

No more rust would indeed be a nice return to how it once was.
August 23, 2017, 04:20 PM
RHINOWSO

August 23, 2017, 04:26 PM
saigonsmuggler
^^ Marksman barrel Smile

No front night sight??

looks to me like same old crappy plastic sights. Frown
August 23, 2017, 04:53 PM
Nick B
What's a DLC coating ?
August 23, 2017, 05:11 PM
BBMW
Diamond Like Carbon.

Here's one company's riff on it. Have no idea who/what Glock is using.

https://www.ibccoatings.com/dl...-coating-ceratough-d

My guess is that this will replace the gaseous nitriding that replaced Tennifer.

quote:
Originally posted by Nick B:
What's a DLC coating ?

August 23, 2017, 10:40 PM
Sunset_Va
quote:
Originally posted by Nick B:
What's a DLC coating ?


In my limited useage,

Ion Bond, DLC

Its a surface hardening treatment.


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August 23, 2017, 10:52 PM
RHINOWSO
quote:
Originally posted by saigonsmuggler:
^^ Marksman barrel Smile

No front night sight??

looks to me like same old crappy plastic sights. Frown
Personally I like it that they come with those sights, because with the myriad of options available today, the stock night sights would get tossed anyway.
August 24, 2017, 10:00 AM
Gundawg
so in my thinking to two most important aspects will be how the DLC holds up, and if any differences in accuracy are seen with the new barrel.


August 24, 2017, 10:30 AM
BBMW
I bet the majority of buyers (who are not posting on web forums) keep the stock sights on. I bet more would if they were better.

Before the drop safety fiasco, one of the things I liked better about the P320 was the fact that I didn't really have to change anything on it to get it the way I would want it. Can't say that about the Glock. Of course some people buy the Glock specifically for a project, but none of the parts should be bad enough that they need to be replaced. The sights are.

quote:
Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
quote:
Originally posted by saigonsmuggler:
^^ Marksman barrel Smile

No front night sight??

looks to me like same old crappy plastic sights. Frown
Personally I like it that they come with those sights, because with the myriad of options available today, the stock night sights would get tossed anyway.

August 24, 2017, 10:46 AM
saigonsmuggler
quote:
Originally posted by BBMW:
I bet the majority of buyers (who are not posting on web forums) keep the stock sights on. I bet more would if they were better.

Before the drop safety fiasco, one of the things I liked better about the P320 was the fact that I didn't really have to change anything on it to get it the way I would want it. Can't say that about the Glock. Of course some people buy the Glock specifically for a project, but none of the parts should be bad enough that they need to be replaced. The sights are.

Yeah that's me right there. If the Glock sights were just metal, I would've just use them like that. The main reason my Glocks have night sights was because of the stock plastic sights.. ugh

I was hoping I'd get the 19M with the FBI sights.. guess not, a bit of a bummer. However I'm getting this 19 anyway.
August 24, 2017, 12:55 PM
terra
That looks mighty promising. I love the flared mag well and glad they are ditching the finger grooves on the 19.
August 24, 2017, 12:56 PM
BBMW
I had read, and this info is old, that Glock will install a good set of metal night sights (rebranded Meprolites?) pretty cheap, if you send your slide into Smyna. I don't know if this is still the case.

But if it is, they should just offer the guns that way.

quote:
Originally posted by saigonsmuggler:
quote:
Originally posted by BBMW:
I bet the majority of buyers (who are not posting on web forums) keep the stock sights on. I bet more would if they were better.

Before the drop safety fiasco, one of the things I liked better about the P320 was the fact that I didn't really have to change anything on it to get it the way I would want it. Can't say that about the Glock. Of course some people buy the Glock specifically for a project, but none of the parts should be bad enough that they need to be replaced. The sights are.

Yeah that's me right there. If the Glock sights were just metal, I would've just use them like that. The main reason my Glocks have night sights was because of the stock plastic sights.. ugh

I was hoping I'd get the 19M with the FBI sights.. guess not, a bit of a bummer. However I'm getting this 19 anyway.

August 24, 2017, 02:37 PM
saigonsmuggler
quote:
Originally posted by BBMW:
I had read, and this info is old, that Glock will install a good set of metal night sights (rebranded Meprolites?) pretty cheap, if you send your slide into Smyna. I don't know if this is still the case.

But if it is, they should just offer the guns that way.

Yes they still do. Sent my last 26's slide in about 2 months ago via FedEx ground and Glock charged $64 or so for return postage and night sights installed. Very reasonable.
August 24, 2017, 02:38 PM
TheFrontRange
Looks like a gun store / range in my area is sponsoring a "Midnight Madness" event this weekend to unveil the Gen 5s. A bit past my bedtime but may try to make it anyway.



"The sea was angry that day, my friends - like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli." - George Costanza
August 24, 2017, 03:41 PM
sns3guppy
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Slightly higher velocities than traditional land-and-groove barrels, all else being equal, and these barrels are ridiculously easy to clean, even after extensive shooting.


After running several thousand coated bullets through a G19 barrel, a few passes with a pass and brush, and a bore snake...no visible evidence that the barrel had ever been used.

Poly barrels are much easier to clean and maintain that lands and grooves, for sure.
August 24, 2017, 03:42 PM
BBMW
I would consider a non-polygonal barrel a step backward.

quote:
Originally posted by sns3guppy:
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Slightly higher velocities than traditional land-and-groove barrels, all else being equal, and these barrels are ridiculously easy to clean, even after extensive shooting.


After running several thousand coated bullets through a G19 barrel, a few passes with a pass and brush, and a bore snake...no visible evidence that the barrel had ever been used.

Poly barrels are much easier to clean and maintain that lands and grooves, for sure.

August 24, 2017, 03:48 PM
12131
Looks like RTF3 grip. I like.


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August 24, 2017, 03:52 PM
.38supersig
quote:
Originally posted by BBMW:
I would consider a non-polygonal barrel a step backward.


^^^ +1 ^^^




August 24, 2017, 04:03 PM
BBMW
The only advantage I would see to conventional rifling would be to shooter who shot cast lead bullets. How many 9mm auto shooters are out there who shoot cast lead? I don't think its going to be a big number, especially percentage-wise.