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What pistols have you owned, or fired that have just not lived up?

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August 14, 2018, 04:16 PM
.38supersig
What pistols have you owned, or fired that have just not lived up?
I guess for me it would be a Beretta M9. Tried one that my BIL has. Never understood the fascination & didn't do anything for me. Another would be the Taurus Judge (and clones). Thought I was sure to want either, because I'm always looking for something different.

Keep in mind that this is coming from a guy that does not have a 1911 in 45ACP or a 9mm Glock. So what do I know???



August 14, 2018, 04:21 PM
Bisleyblackhawk
More than several J Frame Smiths in .38/.357...the recoil (even with moderate "defensive" loads) and overall shooting "feel" always made me wish for a Model 10 or 19...I gave up on alloy framed J framed Smiths years ago (and I still cringe when someone suggests one for their wife/GF/significant other/new shooter to this day)...don't get me wrong "they are what they are" and if you go into it with that mindset...but so many folks don't.


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August 14, 2018, 04:23 PM
Fredward
Colt DS II and Official Police, the releases in the 90's. Both were defective. The DS has a loose shroud or something that kept turning. The OP was full of metal shavings on the inside. I returned them both for full refunds.
August 14, 2018, 04:39 PM
sigarms229
Interarms Walther PPK/S, unreliable

S&W 9m (early Sigma series compact gun only made for a year or two), once again unreliable. .

Sig P238, shot amazing groups and was a soft shooter but unreliable

S&W M&P Series guns. I've owned an M&P 9 fullsize, plus a few shields. None have done it for me. All were reliable but I couldn't shoot them worth a damn. I just don't see why these guns are loved so much.

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August 14, 2018, 04:54 PM
DSgrouse
quote:
Originally posted by arcwelder76:
quote:
Originally posted by az4783054:
Anything from KELTEC...


That's it? I'm sure there is a more robust response possible. You pretty much drove by this thread at high speed shouting "I hate Keltec" out the window. Booooring.

Anyway.

Top of the shitpile (bottom?) would be the Steyr GB. I bought one used, so maybe that was the problem. It just wouldn't run, no matter the fiddling, ammo types etc.

Sig P229 in .40. Really, I blame .40 for this, because I love the P228, P225, and lots of other Sigs. One of the first guns I bought was the 229 in .40 with a .357 barrel for it as well, and it was a crap trigger inaccuracy festival. Never bought another .40.

Haven't had too many disappointments in firearms, at least that don't spring immediately to mind. The Ruger Mini-30 was an underwhelming experience. Mostly due to the magazines, and ho-hum accuracy.

I'm sure I'm forgetting something.


The steyr GB is on my shortlist. I would be interested in reading more about your issues. At the current price point of them I don't really want to waste the money if i need not to.
August 14, 2018, 05:21 PM
grumpy1
M&P 2.0 Compact. I just could not shoot it near as well as almost any of my other pistols. However I am pretty sure it was that it was not a good fit for me. I tried one at the range with the stock grip and for me the reach to the trigger was too short and that the trigger broke so far back.
August 14, 2018, 05:22 PM
arfmel
P230SL cuts the crap out of web of my hand. Kicks way out of line for the feeble cartridge given its size and weight.
August 14, 2018, 05:38 PM
Il Cattivo
1911, or Colt 1991A1 to be specific. I can make it work, but it takes parts, time and money before it'll suit me as well as a comparable Sig.
August 14, 2018, 05:43 PM
Sig M11
Colt Double Eagle.

Replaced it with a West German Sig Sauer P226 in 1991.

And so began the journey...
August 14, 2018, 06:07 PM
dking271
I bought a Mitchell Arms Victor 22, and I was lucky to get two shots in a row. Even shooting Remington Target ammo, which was what MA suggested would make it reliable, it still sucked.

I had a Glock 36 that was an unreliable POS. The captive recoil spring jumped the guide rod and required a take down with a mallet.

Springfield TRP 1911 was very poorly fit and also very unreliable. Traded it in for a Wilson and never looks back.


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August 14, 2018, 06:58 PM
Ryanp225
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Originally posted by grumpy1:
M&P 2.0 Compact. I just could not shoot it near as well as almost any of my other pistols. However I am pretty sure it was that it was not a good fit for me. I tried one at the range with the stock grip and for me the reach to the trigger was too short and that the trigger broke so far back.

I felt the same way until I shot the 3.6". Try one if you get a chance.

My pick would be the Beretta M9/92 series. I don't know what it is but nothing about them work for me and I really wanted to like them.
August 14, 2018, 07:08 PM
benny6
The Walther P22. It was fun and ran for a couple of years until the cheap pot metal slide cracked at the spring guide shroud one day.

Walther replaced the slide and as soon as I got it back I traded it in for a Browning Buckmark Camper. That pistol is built like a tank and eats everything I throw at it. I do have to clean it every thousand rounds or so since I had the barrel chopped to 4" and threaded. I run a suppressor on it exclusively so it gets dirty faster.

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August 14, 2018, 07:14 PM
arcwelder
quote:
Originally posted by DSgrouse:
The steyr GB is on my shortlist. I would be interested in reading more about your issues. At the current price point of them I don't really want to waste the money if i need not to.


On paper, they're great.

No matter what I did I couldn't get through a magazine. It wasn't worth further inquiry, as the feel of the pistol was overall a "meh" for me, reliability aside. If it ran I'd still have it as a curiosity, as its design is unique.

Looking on GunBorker, I see they're double what I paid, starting. For a pistol no box one mag. Mine had the original box and all the trimmings. I wouldn't bother at that price, but that's due to my sample size of 1.

I seem to recall we've got at least one member who owns one, who has had a much better experience than mine. Not many people bother with them, and I wager most who do were curious like I was, and probably you are.

I had a much better experience with my Automag III, that thing is accurate and you can shoot all day, while annoying others on the range due to the noise. Meanwhile Automags have a reputation for spotty reliability. (due to which model and who made it) Crappiest among them the "hardballer." If you want a shitty 1911, find one of those.


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August 14, 2018, 07:35 PM
RHINOWSO
Mid 90's Glock 27. In retrospect not a good Glock to start with, however the AWB was in full effect 40S&W was popular so bigger boom must be mo-betta, right? Wrong. I hated shooting it and by proxy hated all Glocks for a long time.

SIG P230SL - bought one, boy was it pretty. But I didn't like the controls (heel mag release), or lack of them (slide stop / release). It wasn't especially accurate in my hands (while the P220/45 I bought was a like a laser beam). It was one of my few impulse handgun buys.

SIG P320 - Big, bulky, heavier that comparable poly guns in the class. Stingy trigger finger and mongo slide release, coupled with the weird need to have a Large size Compact frame to work with my very medium sized hands.

Most 1911s, including an original Colt Delta Elite and several Kimbers of various makes / models. Not unreliable or anything, just totally 'meh' to me and didn't live up to what I thought they were.

Besides those, I've been lucky - I mean I started with a KF P220/45 (bought at the same time as the P230SL above). That thing ran like a sewing machine (and still does). Never really got a jammomatic. I never really run to the sound of the "new fangled flavor of the month" guns, so I think that has played a part.
August 14, 2018, 07:51 PM
FN in MT
Walther P-22. I wanted badly to really like it, but it was simply unreliable and the accuracy was disappointing.

When I was given a trade opportunity for a first year production, S&W M-66 4" STRAIGHT ACROSS , I jumped on the deal.

#2 would have to be the 2 or 3 Ruger single actions I had over the past 50 years. Especially the later models.
August 14, 2018, 08:03 PM
kr350psd
Sig Mosquito.
The only Sig that I ever bought that I still don't own.
Nothing but a jamming POS.


August 14, 2018, 08:32 PM
highlander81
Detonics Combat Master. A jammamatic

Sold it and bought a Colt Officers Model. Another totally unreliable pistol.

Commander length is as short as I would ever go as a result of those two guns.
August 14, 2018, 08:52 PM
cslinger
HK VP9. Just didn’t gel with it. Like HKs very much but I don’t dig the VPs.

S&W M&P Shield.
S&W M&P gen 1. (No experience with new ones but I like them much better just handling)

Glock 43. Way prefer the 26 and Walther PPS.

Kriss Vector.....meh. In full auto it might matter but semi....meh

Thompson SMG. Heavy, weird recoil impulse, heavy, pain in the ass drum mags, heavy did I mention that? I cannot imagine wanting one of those over a Garand. Maybe as a room broom but that’s about it. Damn thing would be a heavy .45 to carry too. Wink


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August 14, 2018, 09:37 PM
bionic218
S&W J frames of the "hammerless" variety (442/642).

Some people really dig 'em, and I'm not out to piss on anybody's choice, but they're not for me.
August 14, 2018, 11:34 PM
DMF
1911s in general.

Don't get me wrong. I have a couple, one of which I built.

But they are way over-hyped. When well tuned, they are nice to shoot. Howevver, at USPSA and IPDA matches I've witnessed more 1911s have failures than all the other types combined.

SIG P228. Again, don't get me wrong, I have one, and like it, but the hype over that gun is ridiculous. There are people who swear a P228 is much better in "feel" than a P229 in 9mm. It's BS. There are some very minor technical differences, but there is no difference in feel when shooting the pistols.


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