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October 19, 2020, 10:06 AM
pso1207
New Glock 40 Gen 5
So I just pulled up the Glock site and couldn't help but to notice a few new models. For one, there is a 43x MOS. Secondly, gen 4 9mm are LE ONLY? And most surprisingly is that there are now Gen 5 40 s&w models.

I knew it was only a matter of time for the 40s in Gen 5 but didn't see any press release, etc. Also, does this mean a Gen 5 45acp is in the works?
October 19, 2020, 10:46 AM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by pso1207:
I knew it was only a matter of time for the 40s in Gen 5


Especially since they had already produced some Gen 5 G22s a couple years back for a foreign LE agency.


October 19, 2020, 11:22 AM
iron chef
Is it too much to ask for your thread title to distinguish between Glocks chambered in .40 S&W vs the Glock 40 chambered in 10mm?
October 19, 2020, 04:42 PM
mike56
So it's a 2 pin? Didn't think they would handle .40
October 19, 2020, 04:48 PM
pedropcola
Yes it’s too much. Sometimes you just have to open the thread. lol
October 19, 2020, 04:52 PM
P220 Smudge
quote:
Originally posted by mike56:
So it's a 2 pin? Didn't think they would handle .40


As I've read it, the three pin came about with the 10mm pistols, which were suffering from cracked frames in testing, so when they came to market, they had three pins. There was about a year of production of the G22 Gen 2 with two pin frames, and they had some issues with the locking block, so they switched them over to 3 pin, and eventually everything else followed just for commonality. I believe this problem has been solved in other ways since then, so they're reverting back to two pin frames for all the standard frame size models.


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October 19, 2020, 06:00 PM
limblessbiff
quote:
Originally posted by iron chef:
Is it too much to ask for your thread title to distinguish between Glocks chambered in .40 S&W vs the Glock 40 chambered in 10mm?



This isn’t the hood, here a Glock 40 isn’t a Glock 22. His thread title was pretty clear to me.
I’m also surprised that the .40 cal glocks are going gen 5 before the .45’s. You’d think that they sell more of the .45’s than they do .40 s&w
October 19, 2020, 06:24 PM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by limblessbiff:
I’m also surprised that the .40 cal glocks are going gen 5 before the .45’s. You’d think that they sell more of the .45’s than they do .40 s&w


Lower initial setup cost. The .40s use the same frame as the existing 9mms, and a majority of the same internal parts. The .45s do not.

Also lets them get more LE contracts, for the agencies that aren't switching to 9mm from .40. And there are a lot more of those than .45 agencies.
October 19, 2020, 07:46 PM
DaBigBR
The Gen 5 locking block and slide stop lever designs make up for the rigidity from the third pin.

Gen 4 9mm are indeed going away and Gen 3 only sticking around because of the California market.
October 19, 2020, 08:51 PM
jljones
^^^^^^^^
Pretty sure the current military contract is Gen3.




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October 19, 2020, 09:25 PM
1KPerDay
quote:
Originally posted by limblessbiff:
quote:
Originally posted by iron chef:
Is it too much to ask for your thread title to distinguish between Glocks chambered in .40 S&W vs the Glock 40 chambered in 10mm?



This isn’t the hood, here a Glock 40 isn’t a Glock 22.

Yet that seems to be what we’re talking about here.


I also thought MODEL 40 but apparently he was talking about .40 caliber gen 5 Glocks.


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October 19, 2020, 09:44 PM
Anubismp
Agreed, i thought this was 10mm goodness. I'm going to a class tomorrow so I suppose no harm asking there.
October 20, 2020, 02:11 AM
Cous2492
I prefer the generation 4 glocks. I do qualify for blue label, but I hope they dont make them unavailable to everyone else. The gen 4 is perfection for me.
October 20, 2020, 06:11 AM
pso1207
I see why the 40 title may be someway confusing. But I don’t know how to edit the title. More importantly, I love my current issued Glock 45 (9mm) but desperately want a Glock gen 5 in 45 (acp). Hopefully that will happen soon!


Sorry for the sarcasm...just messing around.

I’m actually surpyit took Glock this long to phase out the previous generations.
October 20, 2020, 06:25 AM
AR3T3
quote:
Originally posted by DaBigBR:
The Gen 5 locking block and slide stop lever designs make up for the rigidity from the third pin.

Gen 4 9mm are indeed going away and Gen 3 only sticking around because of the California market.


This. I'm waiting for the G35 in Gen5, hopefully soon.
October 20, 2020, 07:59 AM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by jljones:
^^^^^^^^
Pretty sure the current military contract is Gen3.


That may have been true for the older SOCOM orders, but the more recent USMC purchase was for 19Ms.
October 20, 2020, 09:16 AM
bubbatime
quote:
Originally posted by mike56:
So it's a 2 pin? Didn't think they would handle .40


Well, well, well. Glock screwed the pooch on this release. They made the new gen 5 .40 slides wider and heavier to mitigate the extra pressure and recoil of the .40 round. So these new guns will likely not fit most holsters for Glock pistols and will need new holster designed especially for them.

The gen 4 Glocks are getting discontinued and only made in limited quantities for law enforcement agencies that continue to order them and don't want to order new holsters for the gen 5 .40 pistols.

The gen 3 Glocks are barely holding on and still only being made because California still has them on the roster for purchase. The gen 3 pistol line is now considered the California line and those pistols only come with ten round magazines. It is illegal to sell a gen 4 or gen 5 Glock in California to non-LEO.


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October 20, 2020, 12:24 PM
jljones
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
quote:
Originally posted by jljones:
^^^^^^^^
Pretty sure the current military contract is Gen3.


That may have been true for the older SOCOM orders, but the more recent USMC purchase was for 19Ms.


Totally forgot about that because they have already replaced them.




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October 21, 2020, 06:51 AM
walker77
I'm waiting for the Gen 5 32.
October 21, 2020, 09:02 PM
Anubismp
Alot of the holsters likely wouldn't have fit anyways due to the ambi safety.