I've heard the S+W M+P .22 is pretty darn reliable.......I would think the newish Glock .22 LR would be as well....The CZ Kadet, but try finding one....I REALLY DISLIKE conversion kits as they gum up your nice centerfire pistols with all kinds of soot and debris in them by shooting .22 LR and cost as much as buying a dedicated .22 LR like a buckmark or something else. Also, are you really going to take the hot .22 LR slide/barrel etc. off at the range and put it back to the centerfire cartridge to practice with the centerfire cartridge?

Well yes I have done exactly that. I agree that timing is everything when looking for a Kadet. There are a bunch and then there are none. Till the next ship apparently.

As for gumming it up. I buy the cheap non chlorinated brake cleaner. A couple squirts, shake it dry, re lube, you would never know it ever shot a 22. In reality, I’ve never had that cause a centerfire malfunction either and I’m not exactly a “clean your gun with a white glove” guy.

The Kadet is basically foolproof. I never had any issues until I converted my CZ’s to the full pro package from CGW. Even with the heavier mainspring I will get more light strikes than before. I am forced to either reconvert one back to stock, nope, or run better ammo during matches. I don’t have issues that way. It is slightly annoying because pre upgrade they ran on the shittiest bulk pack like a machine. They are more finicky now. It’s the DA stroke. The CGW package shortens the arc. Great for 9mm, not so great for 22. Lol. In SA I don’t experience this issue. Unfortunately I tend to use the Kadet to practice my draw and first shot or doubles. Oh well. The Beretta 87 fires all this crappy ammo fine. I do notice the weak Aguila stuff tends to eject weakly back at my face. Put anything with more oomph and it throws it out to the side like it should. I hate Aguila. 2 bricks left and then never again. Even in these tight t8mes I wouldn’t buy it.

B87 or Kadet. Both pricy. Both worth it. Both you can sell and get your money back. Try that with some of those other suggestions (not you Model 41, you are worth it too!)

I had an Advantage Arms .22 conversion on a Glock 17 frame that worked very well.

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I don’t know if it fits your criteria but I’ll also suggest a S&W Model 41. It looks vaguely 1911y. The one I have set up for a suppressor is by far my favorite gun to shoot out of about 100. I actually just got a second one last week.

part of me want's to scream BLASPHEMY!!! on a suppressed Mod 41,,,,,


the other thinks that is just fooking awesome,


who did the barrel?

My P226 conversion kit has been flawless with a variety of ammo types. I like it because I keep the same trigger pull and geometry I carry on duty. For accurate plinking I like my MKII.

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Originally posted by photoman12001:



I don’t know if it fits your criteria but I’ll also suggest a S&W Model 41. It looks vaguely 1911y. The one I have set up for a suppressor is by far my favorite gun to shoot out of about 100. I actually just got a second one last week.

part of me want's to scream BLASPHEMY!!! on a suppressed Mod 41,,,,,


the other thinks that is just fooking awesome,


who did the barrel?

That’s a Clark barrel. It’s actually a great suppressor host. The breech is very open so fouling doesn’t build up like it does in my Ruger MKII hosts.

If you have a 1911, you may like Marvel, Ciener, or Advantage Arms uppers (slide, bbl. spring and slide lock). I've worked with all three and found them very accurate...especially the Marvel, and with a variety of ammunition. All three, on my guns will shoot 2" gps. at 25 yds from rest, on demand. To date, all three work on my two Colt Series 70 .45's, a WW2 Remington-Rand, and a pair of Ruger SR1911's.

The key to reliability is keeping the bolt face, chamber and operating rails clean. Oil works best vs. grease, and I clean and re-grease after every 50 rounds. A tooth brush used on the bolt face suffices, and a bore snake pulled through the bore does for the rest.

Of the three, only the Advantage Arms unit locks back after firing the final round. My preference is for the Marvel unit with it's superior lock up and use of Colt magazines. With Mini-Mags or Federal Auto, it's good enough for all but the very top levels of NRA Bullseye competition.

I also own but rarely shoot, a Colt Ace .22 upper...the one with the sliding chamber. It's not nearly as accurate as the 3 previously mentioned, and demands careful cleaning of the sliding chamber, bolt face and bore to prevent frequent ftf's.

If your looking for something else, I've had really good results with a Sig X-change .22 unit for my P226 Mk25. It's nearly as accurate as the three above, and likewise demands the same attention to cleaning for reliability.

I've also spent some time with a M41 Smith...similar grip angle to the 1911, and superbly accurate...none better in my experience. Expensive, but it's a life time investment. I like the 5" heavy target barrel, generally, but do spend some fun time afield with the much lighter 5" Field Barrel.

Colt Woodsman's (I have the 4-1/2" Target model) are always a good choice, but they do have more slant to the grip, similar to the Ruger Standard Mkx models. I don't shoot either of these, offhand, as well as the 1911 gripped models however...but from a rest, they'll keep selected ammunition inside 2" @ 25 yds.

All of the above is with iron sights. HTH's Rod