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M&P 2.0 at 2000 rounds. Some thoughts.
December 03, 2017, 06:24 AM
jljonesM&P 2.0 at 2000 rounds. Some thoughts.
Yeah, I probably will. I primarily carry a 2022 off duty, but I like the idea of the compact. I have been carrying a 9c as a back up gun for years and like it a lot better over the G26.
December 04, 2017, 11:57 AM
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December 05, 2017, 04:20 AM
steel96quote:
Originally posted by dehughes:
Thanks for updating.
I'm curious to hear how the Apex barrel works for you, as the groups opening up w/the stock barrel is disappointing.
Agree. The accuracy issues with the 9mm M&P's is what has prevented me from being a buyer.
December 05, 2017, 09:51 AM
BILLGquote:
Originally posted by steel96:
quote:
Originally posted by dehughes:
Thanks for updating.
I'm curious to hear how the Apex barrel works for you, as the groups opening up w/the stock barrel is disappointing.
Agree. The accuracy issues with the 9mm M&P's is what has prevented me from being a buyer.
There is no accuracy issue with the M&P 2.0.
December 05, 2017, 11:39 AM
jtd85Just out of curiosity, how many rounds does it take before say a glock starts to open up accuracy wise?
December 06, 2017, 02:45 AM
venenoindyquote:
Originally posted by steel96:
quote:
Originally posted by dehughes:
Thanks for updating.
I'm curious to hear how the Apex barrel works for you, as the groups opening up w/the stock barrel is disappointing.
Agree. The accuracy issues with the 9mm M&P's is what has prevented me from being a buyer.
I have had a few M&P's in the past, even an old one with the different barrel twist and I did not experience accuracy issues. 99.9% of people can't shot any handgun to its potential including me, there are a lot of variables that dictate group size but mechanical accuracy is there if you do your homework the big difference is the person that pull the trigger. I shot a 2.0 4.25 yesterday and out of Glock 17 gen5, CZ P10c, Sig 320, Glock 19 gen4 with an Apex trigger, I shot the factory stock M&P 2.0 the best.
December 07, 2017, 08:59 PM
venenoindyJust got a great deal on a 2.0 5 inch, $448.00 out the door brand new.
December 07, 2017, 09:01 PM
venenoindyquote:
Nice, I was looking at one of those and trigger is nice from factory.
December 08, 2017, 09:15 AM
jljonesquote:
Originally posted by jtd85:
Just out of curiosity, how many rounds does it take before say a glock starts to open up accuracy wise?
Well, that is a difficult question to speculate on, and it would be just speculation at this point. Glock only recently put up a sample that will shoot with the 2.0 group wise at distance. I'll go a step further and say that my 2.0 groups currently are only slightly larger than what you get out of a stock box 1-4 Gen Glock in the factory setting. They are meant to be a 3-4 inch gun at 25. Nothing more. The group size does open up on those guns at around 10k to about what I see out of my 2.0 currently.
Now, with that being said, the Gen5 is a different beast, and it does get the same accuracy that the 2.0 gets out of the box. And I don't have enough, nor know anyone that has enough rounds through one yet to give a good idea of what they are going to do as a whole. My jobs transition has been delayed yet again. Once I get guns out in the field, I'll be able to see better what they will do across a wide range of shooters.
Does this sorta, kinda, help?
December 08, 2017, 09:17 AM
jljonesquote:
Originally posted by venenoindy:
Just got a great deal on a 2.0 5 inch, $448.00 out the door brand new.
That is a great deal.
December 08, 2017, 09:21 AM
jljonesI do not like the color. But, I sure like the way it shoots.
December 08, 2017, 09:36 AM
Jim WatsonMy thought exactly. Why are they sending out so many of the 2.0 in camel dung brown? Lots of brown paint and plastic left over?
December 08, 2017, 09:47 AM
bpnkrtnI want a black 5 inch CORE M2.0 ... now!
December 08, 2017, 09:56 AM
jljonesWell, in the words of the immortal Shrek....."'at'll do, donkey, at'll do"
December 08, 2017, 11:22 AM
dehughesquote:
Originally posted by jljones:
Well, in the words of the immortal Shrek....."'at'll do, donkey, at'll do"
Nice. Stock? At what distance?
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December 08, 2017, 11:23 AM
jljonesStock at 25 yards.
December 08, 2017, 12:58 PM
jljonesquote:
Originally posted by Jim Watson:
My thought exactly. Why are they sending out so many of the 2.0 in camel dung brown? Lots of brown paint and plastic left over?
That and the damn loaded chamber indicator.
December 08, 2017, 01:24 PM
bpnkrtnquote:
Originally posted by jljones:
That and the damn loaded chamber indicator.
Besides being not needed are there other problems with it. Just want to learn ...
December 08, 2017, 01:31 PM
jljonesquote:
Originally posted by bpnkrtn:
quote:
Originally posted by jljones:
That and the damn loaded chamber indicator.
Besides being not needed are there other problems with it. Just want to learn ...
Most of the major players won't cut the slide for an RMR with the LCI installed. So, as of right now a 5 inch gun with a RMR is off of the table. (in a 2.0)
I have heard that a non-LCI 2.0 may be released at NRA this year. Should not be a big deal because all the 2.0 5 inch gun is a beefier 9L slide. (at least that is what it appears to be)