parabellum, the Glock G46 was a interesting design and thank you for sharing the video with us.

I followed this a bit when it came out and no I wouldn’t want one.

I’m the first person to say that not every gun fits every skill level and new or inexperienced shooters might want a bit more of a mechanical safety net but damn, I’m not sure I’d want my police force armed if they require all this. It’s like some kind of Tonka “my first Glock” thing.

The rotating barrel is cool though.

In the video he said that they needed a longer trigger pull. Yet the P7 is OK.

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In the video he said that they needed a longer trigger pull. Yet the P7 is OK.

Because the criteria for a replacement pistol has changed from the 1970s pistol trials.

Sometimes I forget what century we are in

I was hoping it'd be released eventually here, even in limited runs. I ended up getting a Beretta to try a rotating PD. I really like shooting my PX4CC.

Thank you for posting, I found it interesting..

Making a Glock more complicated. Seems counterproductive. I mean, I don't love the pull the trigger as part of the disassembly process, but it isn't hard to remember.

It's a Glock for dummies. The longer trigger pull, the striker disable feature and the idiot switch which ensures that you don't have a magazine in the pistol when you disassemble it, are all there to prevent the most inept of handlers from shooting a hole in their strudel maker.

I wonder why there are not more pistols with rotating barrel system. It's supposed to be inherently more accurate than the tilt barrel lock-up system, from my understanding. Is it because it's more complicated, harder to make, hence more expensive?

I don't know about relative expense, but a rotating barrel system seems to me to be inherently more prone to malfunction, given its more complex design, which utilizes a cam and track to lock and unlock the barrel, as opposed to the inclined plane system of modern pistols.

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...and you can't have one...

Which of course makes me want one even more.

I watched Ian's video shortly after he posted it and processed all of the negatives he cited. But it's the fact that it's a relative operational unicorn in the sea of copy-and-paste Glock models that makes it desirable to a ghoul like me. However I confess that I rather would've preferred it had the G46 been built off the full-size grip like the G17 or G45 than the compact G19 sized one; in Gen5 guise the backstrap swell bugs me not at all with the bigger frame, but conversely the G19/G23 Gen5 backstrap swell annoys the hell out of me, the first generation of compact Glocks that's done that.

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I don't know about relative expense, but a rotating barrel system seems to me to be inherently more prone to malfunction, given its more complex design, which utilizes a cam and track to lock and unlock the barrel, as opposed to the inclined plane system of modern pistols.

Reliability is less of a problem. The cam track also works with SIG, CZ etc. and was never a problem with the Steyr M1911. The challenge so far has been the cost-intensive machining with conventional profile milling machines, but this has become obsolete with CNC machining. Further information can be found in: "Verschlusssysteme für Feuerwaffen" (locking systems for firearms) by Peter Dannecker.

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Echoing what Para said ... this is a pistol designed for the lowest common denominator.
As a service weapon, they have to make it as idiot-proof as possible.
Eliminating the 'pull trigger to disassemble' feature protects the dimwits who forget that removing the magazine does not unload the gun.
Likewise, the 'worst of all NY triggers' ensures that there won't be many accidental discharges due to a flinch with a finger on the trigger.

My agency transitioned from the S&W 6906 9mm to the P229R-DAK in .40S&W about 20 years ago. One of the reasons we went to the DAK trigger was to relieve the responsibility of de-cocking the pistol prior to holstering it from the affirmative action hires. They had a hard time remembering to do that. We also got the more compact 229 rather than the full size 226 because "its easier for the smaller folks to carry'. Everything is a compromise meant to cater to the lowest common denominator.

We're looking at a new service weapon to replace our SIG's and I for one am glad this isn't available in the USA. If it came with a magazine disconnect, my Sheriff would be all over this model.