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How similar to a 1911 is the P220 Legion SAO?

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January 24, 2019, 05:26 AM
MNSIG
How similar to a 1911 is the P220 Legion SAO?
I have a DA/SA P220 and several 1911s, but am eyeing the 220 Legion. On my P226 Legion SAO, the slide can be cycled with the safety on. I like that. Other than that, are there any significant advantages of the 220SAO over a full size 1911?
January 24, 2019, 05:40 AM
rbert0005
I can't find any. Although it depends on which brand and model.

Bob


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January 24, 2019, 06:14 AM
henryaz
 
I don't know if it's an advantage, but I like the way the SIG SAO thumb safety works. It blocks the trigger bar, vs locking the slide. Which means you can rack the slide and load a round with safety on.



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January 24, 2019, 09:55 AM
USAFA71
One advantage the P220 SAO has over the 1911 is reliability- it works out of the box, and is usually more accurate, unless you go to a high-end 1911.
I was thinking of getting a Les Baer/DW/Brown 1911, as I like the platform and have used one for 40 years. But the P220 fits my hand better, more accurate than I can hold(even from a bench, which I never take to the range/ field) and costs less(mine is not the legion but a dark elite model that was discontinued). It is a companion to the 226 Dark Elite 9mm SAO(also discontinued) which will take also take a 226/40 S&W slide. With these two, I am set for 22LR(conversion kit from Sig for both 220 and 229), 9mm, 9mm with RX slide, 40 S&W, and 357 Sig when I get the barrel. For a fan of the 1911, it surely works for me!


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January 24, 2019, 11:32 AM
ACP1
If you have the 45 ACP legion you will find a major difference between it and a standard 1911. The 220 frame is alloy while most 1911’s are steel, big difference in feel. The 220 in all stainless is comparable to the 1911. For me I prefer the 220 da/sa unit, 10 MM all stainless for the legion and 45 ACP in the standard stainless unit.
January 24, 2019, 08:36 PM
4MUL8R
I find the 1911 beavertail superior to the P220 Carry SAO standard beavertail. I don't know if the Legion frame has eliminated the odd feeling of a beavertail pushing into the web of my hand as I swung the thumb around to the P220 SAO safety. The magazines are sufficiently identical that pouches work for either.


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January 24, 2019, 08:42 PM
RogueJSK
Other than the fact that they're both SAO, and they're both single stack .45s, they're not all that similar in feel or design.
January 24, 2019, 09:28 PM
mlazarus
The only significant advantage of the 220 Legion over a similarly priced 1911 would be the consistent quality of Sig over a 1911 which may be manufacture and magazine sensitive. Individual preference will really be the deciding factor for many. I have not found a properly built and maintained 1911 to be less reliable than my Sig 220s. Your mileage may vary.


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January 24, 2019, 11:45 PM
YooperSigs
First thing I do with a new 1911 is have it gone over by a reputable gunsmith with a proven history with the 1911.
You would think after one hundred and eight years.... Never mind!
I have not had to do that with a Sig SAO.


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January 25, 2019, 04:26 AM
gunnitt
the Sig Legion SAO has the sweetest trigger, it is just tremendous. The Sig is a bit heftier, and I find it more accurate. Each person will have their own oppinion, that is mine; you will love it
January 25, 2019, 01:06 PM
wxl
Each to their own, different and would not try to make a comparison. A Sig is a Sig and 1911s are 1911s. Like each as such.
January 25, 2019, 01:45 PM
BillyBonesNY
It's very different...

1. 1911 safety physically blocks hammer from falling when engaged.

2. 1911 trigger travels in a horizontal, linear manner... straight back.

3. 1911 has a lower bore axis.

4. Grip contour, angle is similar.


I love both platforms. Aside from reliability, I find the benefit of DA/SA and decock is what makes the P220 so fantastic.

Making it SA only diminishes it's utility to me, for my purposes.


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January 25, 2019, 02:00 PM
esdunbar
Imo the 1911 is slimmer, has a far better trigger, a better safety and feels better in the hand.

So if you want to make a 1911 bulkier and ruin the trigger, the 220 is an expensive way to do it. Razz. I don’t think the 220 is a bad gun, I just think the 1911 is a far better one.

I don’t find the two guns to be similar at all, other than the caliber they shoot.