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Needs a bigger boat |
I have been accessorizing a G-19; RMR, threaded barrel, disconnector, etc. and was wondering if anyone has had an extractor failure. There seems to be a lot of marketing info that you should replace the MIM extractor with billet or tool steel. Just trying to get an idea if this is really a common failure point. The fact I probably have about 4k rounds (hardly any compared to many people here) through a couple of stock Glocks without a failure tells me they are not made of tissue paper and the extractor thing is probably just aftermarket marketing BS. MOO means NO! Be the comet! | ||
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A man's got to know his limitations |
I've only got 12 Glocks, but some have been shot a lot. Never had a failure. I would not worry about an extractor failure myself. And from shooting matches for years I never saw one fail. "But, as luck would have it, he stood up. He caught that chunk of lead." Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock "If there's one thing this last week has taught me, it's better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it." Clarence Worley | |||
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I have never seen one fail. I've probably got 20 or so Glocks. My agency has about 100 (and this is the third round of Glocks) and I am aware of no failures. Certainly there have not been any in the 8 years I have been with this department. Never any with the department before that as well. Good MIM parts do just fine the overwhelmingly vast majority of the time. You are far, far, far more likely to see failures related to magazines and ammunition. | |||
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Needs a bigger boat |
Thanks guys, that was pretty much what I was thinking. Some extra $ I don't need to spend. MOO means NO! Be the comet! | |||
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Our agency had a few G22's with chipped extractors years ago. They were Gen 3 models and the damage was caused by officers single loading the pistols by hand rather than loading from a magazine. | |||
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There is no "disconnector" in a Glock
To worry about Glock extractor failure is a Fool's Errand. If you open the breach and hand chamber a round, than let the slide fly, you can damage the extractor. This goes for other pistol types, as well. Don't do it. Chamber a round from the magazine like you are supposed to. At 4000 rounds, in another 1000 rounds think about freshening your RSA. That is all. | |||
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In dozens of Glocks, never had a failure of ANY kind. It's hard to argue with reliability like that. I would guess 10s of thousands of rounds. Although I prefer Sig, I cannot say the same thing. | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
Yep. My 1989 Gen 2 Glock 19 started having intermittent FTE issues a few years ago, and I discovered the extractor was chipped. I got it used several years before that, with an unknown round count, and I personally had put about 4k more through it myself. So after about 25+ years of use and what I can assume is many thousands of rounds, it did happen. But it's an easy fix. (And no, I hadn't been single loading rounds directly into the chamber and dropping the slide on them.) | |||
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I had the locking block on my Glock 32 fail while I was at the range. I had a Glock 23 .40 S&W barrel in at the time and was firing 165 grain Winchester Ranger which is pretty high energy. It was probably around 5k rounds and when it failed the gun was no longer able to fire so in a defense scenario that'd be bad. Never had any of my SIG's have a failure like that. | |||
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I must have close to 20k rounds thru my Glocks and the only time I had an extractor failure was when a tiny little piece of brass got stuck in the extractor. Most likely a freak incident and not really a failure of the extractor. Gun had about 10k rounds thru it at the time and a dozen or more posts in the Glock forum said I needed to replace the recoil spring. That’s the automatic response you will get over there. When I discovered the brass stuck in the extractor and posted back that I fixed it, no one ever replied back to me. I hope they were all too embarrassed to reply. When someone tells you that you need to replace this and that if you have X amount of rounds thru it, look the gun over carefully and do some research. --------------- Gary Will Fly for Food... and more Ammo Mosquito Lubrication Video If Guns Cause Crime, Mine Are Defective.... Ted Nugent | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
I've never had a broken extractor for any Glock, but I have a full set of spare parts for 9x19mm gen 3 Glocks, except for slide, frame and barrel. Come to think of it, I have factory threaded barrels for G19 and G17, so, everything except slide and frame, G26 and G34 barrels. ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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sick puppy |
Ive broken two extractors in my days. One on a Beretta 96 and one on a Glock 19. Had to order new ones for both. Not a spare part i kept around but also not a hard one to find in stock online ____________________________ While you may be able to get away with bottom shelf whiskey, stay the hell away from bottom shelf tequila. - FishOn | |||
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You're going to feel a little pressure... |
$13 and change. Order a spare and you will never need it. I haven't. Bruce "The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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I had a chipped extractor on a G17 pointed out to me and replaced by a Glock armorer for free at a GSSF match. The gun was still functioning perfectly, and I had no reason to believe anything was wrong with it at the time. | |||
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Not me, but an LEO that competes at our club broke one on his duty 17 at around 20,000+ rounds of steel case Russian. That is the only one I have heard about. He wasn't concerned given his round count. | |||
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My other Sig is a Steyr. |
The only extractor that I had break was on a Kimber 1911. It was a MIM part. I called them and they sent me two replacement extractors for free. | |||
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Go ahead punk, make my day |
Negative, but I have spares just in case. I think he got his monies worth out of that extractor. | |||
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I don't have super high round count individual glocks just because I change them all the time in terms of what I regularly shoot. But I've more than 200K rounds down various glocks or multiple generations and never broken one. Of course I don't shoot steel case or even crappy ammo. But the part costs $20, is easily available to purchase, trivial to install even on a rainy dark night. So I can't imagine what's to worry about on this part. But of course I do keep a spare or two surrounded by the rest of the necessary spare parts... “So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.” | |||
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It's pronounced just the way it's spelled |
I've seen it happen to a fellow competitor at a bowling pin shoot on a new Glock. Doesn't mean it's common. | |||
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Yes. When I worked at the range in the 90's had a customer whose gun was acting up. Gen2 G22. Extractor chipped at the bottom. My own personal Gen2 G22 broke one back in the early 2000s. Might have broken one on a high mileage G19. Can't remember. Been shooting Glocks a couple decades now. Seen some breakages: trigger return springs, locking blocks and pins, frames, frame rails, even had a new rental G30 at the range back when they were first pushed out that had the thin slide stop spring. It broke after a few rounds. A lot of these breakages and the gun still ran, just not reliably. You push out product at Glock volumes and there are bound to be a few failures. ___________________________________Sigforum - port in the fake news storm.____________Be kind to the Homeless. A lot of us are one bad decision away from there. | |||
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