recently bought p365 with manual safety and finally took it to the range and although I like the pistol overall I have experienced 3 jams in the first 100 rounds. I'm not sure how bad this really is because my other gun is a 1994 P226 that never jammed in the 1000 rounds I got through it so far.
P.S. I'm using good quality brand new (not reload) ammo, nothing crazy like +P or anything like that

What, exactly, do the "jams" involve?

the shell didn't get ejected

Ejection failures are usually due to slow slide speed or a weak grip on the gun.

What ammunition were you using?

Although I have not had any malfunctions with my P365, its small size and grip could make it more likely that it’s moving too freely during recoil for the slide to cycle properly. More powerful ammunition like +P would make the weak grip possibility less likely.

It is also important that the pistol be lubricated properly, and especially on the outside of the barrel.

this is what I was using during that range session: Speer Lawman 9mm Luger Ammo 115 Grain Total Metal Jacket
And like I mentioned 1994 P226 with the same ammo never ever had this problem

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
It is also important that the pistol be lubricated properly, and especially on the outside of the barrel.

Gun is a factory brand new - this was the first time it has ever been fired

That ammunition may be a little on the wimpy side, especially when fired from a gun with a new recoil spring. I find the P365 recoil spring to be pretty stiff, probably because the pistol’s slide is so light as compared with larger guns’.

I would also suspect if you didn’t clean and use good lube on the barrel before shooting the pistol that that may have been a factor. The oil applied at the factory to prevent rust is usually not the best lubricant. There are many good options, but whatever we use should be identified as being suitable for lubricating guns. I currently use Lucas oil, but as I say, there are many products that will work as well.

And we can’t always compare one gun’s performance with a particular type of ammunition to another gun’s. Your P226 is probably lubed with better oil/grease, and its recoil spring has obviously had more of a break-in.

In your situation I’d clean the gun, lube it well, and fire some more, including with heavier bullet loads or even a bit of +P stuff to see how it likes that.

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Originally posted by sip79:

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
It is also important that the pistol be lubricated properly, and especially on the outside of the barrel.

Gun is a factory brand new - this was the first time it has ever been fired

Brand new...step one, clean pistol thoroughly, lubricate, then shoot.

thank you all, will follow up
now only if the 9mm ammo was available to buy to experiment. With the current shortage it's almost criminal to experiment and drain the stash

It’s broke. I will take it off your hands at a discount.

That shouldn't be happening. I'd clean and lube it as recommended here but even one more malfunctions in 100 rounds and it'd be going back to sig for me. Especially with Speer lawman... Unless you are really really super limp wristing maybe.

My minimum round count in a gun before I'll carry it or use it for self/home defense is 200 rounds malfunction free.

All three new in box p365s I've seen in the past 3 months since I bought mine have been 100% malfunction free in their first 200-500 rounds.

What is the "Date Code" of your P365? I too use Lucas oil and grease products, grease on the rails and barrel, oil on the trigger springs and bar. My P365 has a Date Code of 07/30/2020 and I have only put 73 rounds through it which was a mixture of 115g ball, 124g and 147g hollow points, but it never skipped a beat. It had a good ejection pattern for such a new pistol, after 100 more rounds, it will be vetted. Also, how much dry firing have you been doing?

https://www.amazon.com/LUCAS-E...id=1600735359&sr=8-5

I have been shooting Speer Lawman for years I doubt that’s the problem. It’s not hot but it’s not a slouch. Broke my HK P30sk in with Lawman and that thing is a tank.

Perhaps I should have taken it apart and oiled/lubed it before firing but it did look oiled well enough to me straight out of the box. I need to look up the mfg date but it should be pretty fresh as I’ve only got it a little over a month ago and it came straight from SIG (via BassPro).
I have not dry fired it at all maybe couple of times before I loaded 4 mags (2x10rd and 2x12rd ones) and took it to the range where I reloaded these 4 once with range purchased ammo.
First hiccup happened way before the reload and two more during the second round.
I’m not a pro by any means but I woudn’t say I have particularly whimpy grip. I haven’t shot subcompact ever before and that was my first experience with such a gun but as I said, my pretty well used P226 never skipped a bip ever, when it was totally dry/dirty, not when it was freshly serviced/lubed by me, nor after it received the SSP from SIG. I have a dozen various mags for a full size Sig and all of them perform identical, also all variety of ammo feel nearly identical in that gun

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Originally posted by Sig Fever:
What is the "Date Code" of your P365? I too use Lucas oil and grease products, grease on the rails and barrel, oil on the trigger springs and bar. My P365 has a Date Code of 07/30/2020 and I have only put 73 rounds through it which was a mixture of 115g ball, 124g and 147g hollow points, but it never skipped a beat. It had a good ejection pattern for such a new pistol, after 100 more rounds, it will be vetted. Also, how much dry firing have you been doing?

https://www.amazon.com/LUCAS-E...id=1600735359&sr=8-5

I use exactly the same Lucas oil too!
My gun was manufactured on 07/22/2020

Some advice that recurs on SF is that, "Sigs are made to run wet." In other words, a brand new Sig does not come sufficiently lubricated.

Shooting a couple mags of 124gr or heavier ammo through a gun often takes care of FTE issues.

If you would like to meet up at a range, you can shoot my P365. I could shoot yours, and we could see if we can recreate the ejection problem. If you experience FTE on my gun, then it's more likely a grip issue on your part. If I experience FTE on your gun, then there's more evidence that the problem is w/ your gun and not you.

My email is in my profile.

Best bet is to call Sig. They have fixed many.

First with a new gun I always break it down and oil it up good before the range. I have over 1200 flawless rounds out of my 18 month old P365 with various ammo even some ancient surplus. The only issue I ever had was that WWB was not very accurate. BTW, my P226 has over 25,000 rounds with NEVER a failure.

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Originally posted by iron chef:
Some advice that recurs on SF is that, "Sigs are made to run wet." In other words, a brand new Sig does not come sufficiently lubricated.

Shooting a couple mags of 124gr or heavier ammo through a gun often takes care of FTE issues.

If you would like to meet up at a range, you can shoot my P365. I could shoot yours, and we could see if we can recreate the ejection problem. If you experience FTE on my gun, then it's more likely a grip issue on your part. If I experience FTE on your gun, then there's more evidence that the problem is w/ your gun and not you.

My email is in my profile.

That'd be great! I ordered some heavier ammo and will do a basic service/oil/lube the gun and perhaps we can meet and shoot together

Also, you might want to order the P365XL grip module, it gives you more purchase on the pistol. I am currently running one with a Flat Trigger. I carry AIWB and have not found that I print more with the XL module.