They absolutely ooze precision. They lack style, but absolutely overmatch in quality that it is a style. The autos have the same reputation, but I can't get into them.

A Korth is a Korth of course, of course, but help me get past the "boat anchor" vibe.

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Please pick up the white courtesy phone..

I used to own (over a decade ago) a 3" Korth Combat Magnum made by Willi Korth in 1981. Sold it for $1K more than its purchase price, not including the import cost. Not exactly sure what you want to know but my former Korth definitely did not lack style. The only reason I sold it was the offer I received and it was hard to justify $6K in a revolver as more & more firearms came out that I was interested in.

I no longer believe Janz, Korth or Manurhin are the best revolvers in the world BTW. I had the pleasure of shooting a Spohr revolver recently and loved its profile, bull barrel, cylinder release and its trigger adjustment capability... running ~ half the price of an original German Korth. MMB Imports is bringing their L562 models into the country, which you might want to check out. Some claim they're simply a jacked up S&W, which is complete bullshit.

Spohr started out customizing S&W revolvers over in Europe years ago but has moved on to making his own revolvers from bar stock steel. The designs are very attractive from a competition standpoint and possibly HD. At IWA, the company recently introduced a 3" revolver for carry purposes.

Spohr's EU website is www.fineguns.de

If you look under Club 30 (their custom division), you can configure their revolvers with various options and the price is reflected.

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Originally posted by Dakor:
I used to own (over a decade ago) a 3" Korth Combat Magnum made by Willi Korth in 1981. Sold it for $1K more than its purchase price, not including the import cost. Not exactly sure what you want to know but my former Korth definitely did not lack style. The only reason I sold it was the offer I received and it was hard to justify $6K in a revolver as more & more firearms came out that I was interested in.

I no longer believe Janz, Korth or Manurhin are the best revolvers in the world BTW. I had the pleasure of shooting a Spohr revolver recently and loved its profile, bull barrel, cylinder release and its trigger adjustment capability... running ~ half the price of an original German Korth. MMB Imports is bringing their L562 models into the country, which you might want to check out. Some claim they're simply a jacked up S&W, which is complete bullshit.

Spohr's EU website is www.fineguns.de

If you look under Club 30 (their custom division), you can configure their revolvers with various options and the price is reflected.

Those Spohrs have a kinda' "PPC Gun-meets-Bladerunner" Vibe to 'em, at least IMHO...Interesting in a kind of "Steam-punkish" way...

^^^ Spohr did a fantastic job with the design, not just from a looks perspective... the balance of the 4" L562 I was able to shoot was very nice. Its cylinder release is head & shoulders better than any found on other revolvers.

I've admired these revolvers on Margie's website since she first introduced them on GB. However, I reside in Maryland, so I can't buy one, since they are not on the Handgun Roster of approved firearms. I asked Margie if she is ever going to submit them for approval, but she wasn't sure it woud be worthwhile for her. The ultimate irony: I live about an hour away fom her. If she ever did submit them for approval,I'd definitely buy one, especially one of the models with interchangeable cylinders.

It's design is obviously a result from prior experience with S&W revolvers. It would be interesting to see the lockwork, specifically to see if they retained the Rebound Slide or simplified the action.

As for the Spohr revolver but at 43 ounces IMO it's too heavy. IMO the finest Combat revolver in terms of balance and handling is the 4 inch S&W model 15/67 which is a 38 special. Go ahead and sneer at that caliber but keep in mind it's near 80 year history as a Police Service caliber. Also keep in mind that the 38 special is a caliber that has been "hot rodded" since it's introduction and many Police Departments provided their officers with ammunition produced by the police departments. For those who insist on humiliating the 9mm para there is the 357 Magnum in a 3 inch model 19 that retains the weight and balance of the 15/67 but thumps the hand much harder for a nice after shot sting. In terms of trigger quality, the S&W can be tuned to be exceptionally smooth and easy to shoot well with.

Finally concerning Korth, also too heavy. If it was made in Germany it's a Korth, if it was not made in Germany it's a re-branded Nighthawk.

I bought a Korth Mongoose with 9mm cylinder. I really like being able to use one gun with 2 calibers.
Trigger is very good only minor complaint is Hogue rubber grips on a gun priced like the Korth.

The dual cylinder model does interest me, but not at the cost they charge. All revolvers should offer a dual caliber option. I sold off all my single caliber Ruger Blackhawks and now have convertible models in .45 Colt / .45ACP and .357/9mm.
Hey Ruger? How about a 3 inch GP100 in .357/9mm?
Even Taurus offers a dual cylinder model.

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Finally concerning Korth... If it was made in Germany it's a Korth, if it was not made in Germany it's a re-branded Nighthawk.

A Nighthawk Korth is still German made. Nighthawk is simply the importer.

If Nighthawk themselves make their own revolvers, then they are Nighthawk, not re-branded anything. There's no such a thing as a Korth made by Nighthawk.

Nighthawk is only the importer.

https://www.nighthawkcustom.com/revolvers

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As for the Spohr revolver but at 43 ounces IMO it's too heavy. IMO the finest Combat revolver in terms of balance and handling is the 4 inch S&W model 15/67 which is a 38 special. Go ahead and sneer at that caliber but keep in mind it's near 80 year history as a Police Service caliber. Also keep in mind that the 38 special is a caliber that has been "hot rodded" since it's introduction and many Police Departments provided their officers with ammunition produced by the police departments. For those who insist on humiliating the 9mm para there is the 357 Magnum in a 3 inch model 19 that retains the weight and balance of the 15/67 but thumps the hand much harder for a nice after shot sting. In terms of trigger quality, the S&W can be tuned to be exceptionally smooth and easy to shoot well with.

Finally concerning Korth, also too heavy.

The S&W model 15 w/a 4" barrel is 34 ounces, so 6 oz lighter than the Spohr. That being said, whether one wants to shoot 357 mag or hopped-up 38 special ++P ammo, I'll take the durability of the Spohr revolver (or Korth / Manurhin) over a S&W any day.

Yeah, I prefer the 4" barrel in a revolver as it's a good compromise between blast/recoil mitigation vs. overall size/weight.

SPOHR - 100% German made: Spohr 286 Competition Black .357 + 9mm Cylinder

Worth a look and slightly more affordable than many Korth revolvers…..

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Had a few Korth revolvers over the years.

I collect the Korth autos though. I have two of the original Willi Korth Autopistols and a Lollar Korth PRS built in 2014, with another PRS on the way.

The last Korth Autopistol to come up on auction brought $50K, so I'm glad I bought mine when I did. These are from 1988 and 1989. As mentioned the PRS is from 2014.

All extremely rare. Less than 250 Autopistols exist. Not exactly sure on the PRS, but you never see them and when you do its usually $15K or more.

Here's a good reference on Korth, if one is interested:
https://larvatus.livejournal.com/401890.html

Brian - nice pistols! Always intrigued by Korth's semiauto design and how the lockup was in the front portion of the barrel assembly. Too bad Herr Korth didn't survive longer and further refine the pistol.

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Originally posted by Dakor:
Here's a good reference on Korth, if one is interested:
https://larvatus.livejournal.com/401890.html
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Michael’s journals are great and extremely informative. The Autopistol actually started in 1988 though.

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Brian - nice pistols! Always intrigued by Korth's semiauto design and how the lockup was in the front portion of the barrel assembly. Too bad Herr Korth didn't survive longer and further refine the pistol.

Thank you sir

Yes, quite a unique design. In the end, it’s a falling block locking system, like Walther, but done differently.

Because MA is dumb, it looks like I have only one choice available, in the Mongoose. I think I'll make it happen, but buy selling guns. The other revolver that really interests me is the Manurhin, I hope those get "approved," or that MA's dumb laws get struck down.

Geezus jumped up bac1023, I was going to poke fun at you one evening, thinking, I bet you don't have a PRS and by golly, there is one. All 3 of those pistols are some fine engineering. I gotta ask of the first 2 in your picture, do they have a open top slide? Almost Beretta like?