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| The APX A-1 Carry has one of the worst triggers I've ever tried. What's odd is the other APX models have decent triggers. The A-1 Carry's awful trigger combined w/ poor size-to-capacity ratio is why it's often on sale and/or offered w/ rebate.
I'd buy a Taurus GX4 or G3C before the A-1 Carry.
The G43 is tried and true, and you can get 9-round Shield Arms mags for them now. |
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| I loved my g43, still miss it. But the capacity was a bit outdated compared to a shield plus or p365. Get the p365, shoots great for how small it is and you can more tailor it to fit you if you wish |
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| quote: Originally posted by limblessbiff:
I loved my g43, still miss it. But the capacity was a bit outdated compared to a shield plus or p365. Get the p365, shoots great for how small it is and you can more tailor it to fit you if you wish
I feel like something is wrong with me. I have a Colt 45 and a Ruger SP101. Outside of that I never stray from Sig, HK or S&W. This year I bought a Stoeger because I got it for $150 new. Now I’m considering a Beretta because it’s $250 less a $50 rebate. I agree on the trigger. It’s pretty long on the Beretta. I’m not sure I want to pay the price for a P365 as I don’t have much use for it. I doubt either is much fun at the range. If I get the Beretta I can still get the HK 45 I’ve been longing for. If I get the Sig it will impact how long I have to wait to get the HK. When I carry it’s my P320 or J Frame Smith. I would most likely not carry the new micro pistol I get. These darn pistols are addictive. |
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| quote: Originally posted by F12517:
P365 all day long. I had a Glock 43, it was a nice gun, but the P365 package gives you 10+1 for the same size as the G43. Plus you can get higher capacity factory mags for the 365, which is not something you can do for with the 43. It's a case of anything the 43 can do, the 365 can do better...
I held a buddies P365 and his Glock 43 today. I came to the conclusion that all 3 are pretty nice but in the end for $200 the Beretta is the better buy for my purpose. As for the Taurus, I simply don’t trust the brand. I thought about the .22 but in the end went with the Sig instead. I simply know too many people that have had issues with Taurus. |
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| I’ve owned the Beretta APX-A1 carry. You’ll be much happier with a P365 which has the capacity over the G43.
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| quote: Originally posted by iron chef:
The APX A-1 Carry has one of the worst triggers I've ever tried. What's odd is the other APX models have decent triggers.
That's mostly because the APX A-1 Carry is really just a Nano in APX clothing. I had a Nano, and I put it in an APX A-1 grip frame. All in all, it's a bit slimmer and much easier to hang on to. The trigger ain't great, but it's OK for a carry gun. It's no P365, but it costs less than half as much. |
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| The way I look at such things, I want what's going to give me the best chance of a survivable outcome in a shooting scenario. So for a 9mm solution, for me having hardware with a decent trigger would be a vitally important part of that answer. So would a firearm that comes with healthy capacity, since I don't believe in that "it only takes one shot" bullshit given how reality is in this day and age and that targets with drawn guns already have the upper hand and have a nasty tendency of not always standing still. Therefore this apprehensive, pseudo-paranoid mindset of mine doesn't allow me to comprehend why anyone needs to settle for a snappier micro compact pistol with meager capacity and a thoroughly crap-shit trigger, particularly for a weapon being solely utilized in the role of a truck gun. Even if my vehicle were, say, a tiny MG Midget I'm pretty sure I can find space to effectively stow an inexpensive full-size pistol like a Canik TP9SF, Stoeger STR-9 fullsize or CZ P-10C (proper lockbox included) and still have it positioned to be at the ready if--perish the thought--the dire need arises. Assuming that I wouldn't be wearing said gun already. But alas, that's just me and my desire to improve my odds as much as possible. Of course YMMV, depending how bad ass you think you are against two punk hooligans jumping out of that stolen Hyundai that just rammed you, with perhaps at least one of the snot-nosed miscreants armed a switched Glock clone.
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| quote: Originally posted by monoblok:
The way I look at such things, I want what's going to give me the best chance of a survivable outcome in a shooting scenario. So for a 9mm solution, for me having hardware with a decent trigger would be a vitally important part of that answer. So would a firearm that comes with healthy capacity, since I don't believe in that "it only takes one shot" bullshit given how reality is in this day and age and that targets with drawn guns already have the upper hand and have a nasty tendency of not always standing still. Therefore this apprehensive, pseudo-paranoid mindset of mine doesn't allow me to comprehend why anyone needs to settle for a snappier micro compact pistol with meager capacity and a thoroughly crap-shit trigger, particularly for a weapon being solely utilized in the role of a truck gun.
Even if my vehicle were, say, a tiny MG Midget I'm pretty sure I can find space to effectively stow an inexpensive full-size pistol like a Canik TP9SF, Stoeger STR-9 fullsize or CZ P-10C (proper lockbox included) and still have it positioned to be at the ready if--perish the thought--the dire need arises. Assuming that I wouldn't be wearing said gun already. But alas, that's just me and my desire to improve my odds as much as possible. Of course YMMV, depending how bad ass you think you are against two punk hooligans jumping out of that stolen Hyundai that just rammed you, with perhaps at least one of the snot-nosed miscreants armed a switched Glock clone.
Mono, are you sure you didn’t tell us how you really feel? You make some good points though. I was only pondering it for the price. After thinking about it, I am going to pass on the micro compact pistol as a whole. I’m good with the CC pistols I already have. |
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| quote: Originally posted by monoblok:
The way I look at such things, I want what's going to give me the best chance of a survivable outcome in a shooting scenario. So for a 9mm solution, for me having hardware with a decent trigger would be a vitally important part of that answer. So would a firearm that comes with healthy capacity, since I don't believe in that "it only takes one shot" bullshit given how reality is in this day and age and that targets with drawn guns already have the upper hand and have a nasty tendency of not always standing still. Therefore this apprehensive, pseudo-paranoid mindset of mine doesn't allow me to comprehend why anyone needs to settle for a snappier micro compact pistol with meager capacity and a thoroughly crap-shit trigger, particularly for a weapon being solely utilized in the role of a truck gun.
Even if my vehicle were, say, a tiny MG Midget I'm pretty sure I can find space to effectively stow an inexpensive full-size pistol like a Canik TP9SF, Stoeger STR-9 fullsize or CZ P-10C (proper lockbox included) and still have it positioned to be at the ready if--perish the thought--the dire need arises. Assuming that I wouldn't be wearing said gun already. But alas, that's just me and my desire to improve my odds as much as possible. Of course YMMV, depending how bad ass you think you are against two punk hooligans jumping out of that stolen Hyundai that just rammed you, with perhaps at least one of the snot-nosed miscreants armed a switched Glock clone.
Great post with EXCELLENT insight. Thank you, gave me some food for thought.
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| I find the APX A1 carry to be a bit chonky though ergos are very good and it points well. Live fire trigger is not that bad IMHO. It’s not my tuned Glock trigger or in the same league as a Canik or Walther, but I was able to print a 1.5” group off hand at about 10 yards with mine so it’s not out of the question to hit well enough with it. For under $300 after rebate, it’s a very good deal for a solidly built piece. All that said, I’d still grab almost any Glock over it if I had the choice. |
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| I suspect very, very strongly that the APX is really just a rebadged Nano. My daughter’s mom has a nano and actually prefers to carry the Taurus G3C without a manual safety. At the price point, there are quite a few shops, including Bud’s that carries a LCP max 75th anniversary version for 269 and I have been very happy with a 12 round 380 over a micro compact nine. The order you have listed in your head is the order I would buy them in from your options. |
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| Legal Beagle, that’s exactly what the APX Carry is. The main difference (other than the shape) is the APX Carry has an exposed slide stop lever. The Nano does not.
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| I think I had the carry and compact confused. The carry feels quite different to me than the compact, which is actually what I was referring to above. |
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| ^^^A rough analogy would be that the APX and APX Compact correspond to the P320, whereas the APX Carry (based on the earlier Nano) has its own platform and corresponds to the P365. In terms of exact size though, the APX and APX Compact are closest to the USP and USP Compact.
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| quote: Originally posted by iron chef:
I'd buy a Taurus GX4 or G3C before the A-1 Carry.
Just shot a coworkers G2C with my daughter. She wanted a not so small gun with a good sized manual safety (the Shield Plus I got her, she didn't like the safety). It ran fine so she ordered a G3C for $200 from PSA. Should be here next week. Comes with three mags. I'm going to swap some of my spare Glock Ameriglo's onto it for her and we'll run several hundred rounds through it before she makes it her car gun. Her carry gun is still a Glock 42 I bought from Legal Beagle.
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| I have the G-43X and I'm using the Shield mags. 15+1. Same amount of rounds as my G-19 but a smaller package. I gravitated to it because now, 90% of my duty / carry guns are Glock. Absolutely nothing against Sig, I think they are excellent guns, and won't give up my 226 or 220. However, I just really like the G-43X! I did the $.50 trigger job on it, and just tossed on a Holosun RDS. I love the lil bugger!
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