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I have a carry gun and a similarly set up practice gun. The practice gun is for dry practice, live fire and competition.

I'm at my best when I'm regularly working a published dry practice programs. Mike Seeklander, Ben Stoeger, and Steve Anderson all have good ones. I use Steve Anderson's.
 
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I have a carry gun and a similarly set up practice gun. The practice gun is for dry practice, live fire and competition.

I'm at my best when I'm regularly working a published dry practice programs. Mike Seeklander, Ben Stoeger, and Steve Anderson all have good ones. I use Steve Anderson's.


I do believe this is the smartest route.




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Here is another example of a breech face failure for the unbelievers:

https://www.glocktalk.com/thre...malfunction.1825356/



 
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I don't know about all this dry-firing business, but it doesn't really make sense to do it with a totally different gun than the one(s) you normally shoot. That gun may have slightly different trigger pull qualities or properties. Use the same gun, with something to A, simulate a round in the chamber (an empty chamber might subtly alter the trigger pull), and B, show where a bullet would have struck had you actually fired a shot. Of course, any practice is better than none.

While you're at it, observe Cooper Rule Two and don't use as your target something you ordinarily would not, like your TV. Put a designated target on a wall somewhere.

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I have been using the CoolFire barrel for the last week or so on my P320(as previously posted) and really like it. I use the SodaSteam bottle to charge the barrel, and the company says you should get about 2500 shots per bottle. Since I have a Soda Stream for home use, this seemed like a good setup for me.

I had a bit of difficulty getting the barrel properly fitted when putting the slide back on the grip- then I re-read the instructions, and all worked well. Who would have thunk it!

The number of shots per charge will vary with how rapidly you shoot. The faster you shoot, the cooler the barrel gets(it is CO-2 powered), and the fewer shots before needing to recharge. I use it primarily to practice my draw and sight acquisition using the Delta PointPro on my RX slide, so I can get several draws for each shot I take. The sound profile is very similar to a CO-2 powered pellet gun, and I hear no complaints from the wife when I am in the basement practicing. She can probably hear it, but would be barely noticeable with the TV or radio on.

I would classify the first 8-10 shots as being fairly realistic as far as recoil goes, assuming you don’t regularly practice with +P+ ammo. As the CO-2 pressure drops, the recoil diminishes. It seems to take me about 20-25 shots before the pressure drops to where the slide will not cycle at all, but you can expect about 15 shots before the recoil noticeably drops. The factory goal according to their video was to give you at least one magazine worth of shots before needing a recharge, and I would say they were successful in accomplishing that.

While the system is available with a laser, I am not a big fan as a user because you tend to look for the laser and lose focus on the front sight. With the CoolFire, I can focus on the front sight(or focus on the target if using a MRDS) and still feel the recoil and how easily the front sight returns to the center of the target for the next shot. I have used it to practice “Double Taps” and Bill Drills, which is a lot of fun(and good practice), but will require more frequent recharging- totally worth it sometimes!

I purchased mine for the purpose of dry fire practice while adapting to the Red Dot sighting system. It also works well for trigger control(isn’t that why we dry fire?), and honestly, a few double taps/Bill Drills thrown in are fun too.

My son’s Department is testing one with their P226s in 9mm. They seem to like it, but there was a mention that it did not fit all their guns. My bet is it will fit more guns if they re-read the instructions. Will have to ask him about that!

This is not an inexpensive option for dry fire practice, but I am not sure there is a cheap option. The SIRT pistol costs as much, if not a bit more, and you get no recoil “feedback” and will probably start looking for where the laser is hitting. Using the same gun you will shoot works also, and while it gives you more trigger time with the actual operating system, you get no recoil feedback. Of the options I am aware of, the CoolFire is not the most expensive(SodaStream bottles to recharge are not cheap), and it gives you positive(or maybe negative!) recoil feedback. I think it valuable enough that I am now trying to decide on another barrel for either the P226, or the P220. But then I have 2-P229s in 40S+W, and the M11-A1 that I sent to Robert Burke is begging for more time. Decisions, Decisions!

Sorry for the long post, but I am really happy with the results I have seen using the CoolFire system in just a short time. It could be because I wasn’t very good to start with, but I now have a way to realistically practice every aspect of my gun handling, from draw to breaking the shot and recoil control, while sitting in the basement on a rainy day(or in quarantine!) In my 72 years I have owned a lot of guns, and I am now at the point where I don’t need any more guns(didn’t say I didn’t WANT more!), but this system allows me to finally start getting good with one operating system, and I strongly recommend it to anyone who doesn’t have your own indoor range in your basement.


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Here is another example of a breech face failure for the unbelievers:

https://www.glocktalk.com/thre...malfunction.1825356/


You can keep saying 'look here' all day long, and it will still be wrong. Asked and answered: your previous links were not what you purported, and that's been addressed. This one is more of the same.
 
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