^^Basically that’s it. Yes, factory NIB. It’s the Gen1-style frame (no rail, no finger grooves, uniform pebble grip texture) and Gen1-style extractor without the LCI. The other internals are all current Gen3, except for the 2-pin arrangement. The 40th Anniversary P226 would also be analogous, though the Glock comes closer to what it’s copying.
I don’t know why it’s a pre-order. Unless they’ve changed something about it, this thing has been available for about a year now. Maybe they’re not as popular as Lipsey’s was expecting, hence the sale?
It’s 9mm-only, so it doesn’t matter. The 3-pin arrangement was done to enhance durability for .40/.357 at the time. If you look at the new Gen5 .40 models, they’re 2-pin again (like the Gen5 9mm models) because the slides are stouter this time around.
Originally posted by MacGyver: I don’t know why it’s a pre-order. Unless they’ve changed something about it, this thing has been available for about a year now. Maybe they’re not as popular as Lipsey’s was expecting, hence the sale?
Looks like that's the case, but I don't know why the pre-order either, unless kygunco only wants to order as many as they have already sold.
PSA has these for $480 right now (I just learned). First I've heard of it.
I’m a little surprised that this one hasn’t been more popular, considering the mild controversy behind the new Gen5 G17L’s polymer slide piece. Maybe it’s the gimmicky “GEN1” in the serial number.
I had the original 17L, when it first came out. Never really warmed up to it. Felt unbalanced. Much preferred the 34. Yes, I know the main difference, which is most important.
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Originally posted by MacGyver: I’m a little surprised that this one hasn’t been more popular, considering the mild controversy behind the new Gen5 G17L’s polymer slide piece. Maybe it’s the gimmicky “GEN1” in the serial number.
The 17L in general is an odd duck, being a competition-oriented pistol that is too large for most competition categories or the tastes of most competitive shooters, so it only appeals to a small group of buyers.
A throwback Gen 1 version then appeals to an even smaller group of buyers.
So it's a pistol aimed at a tiny niche of a niche.
That’s a good point. I think the Gen1 G17 reissue (and P80) did almost as poorly though. I’m not saying they didn’t sell at all, but definitely not the way Glocks usually sell. I bet the lack of a rail and smooth grip texture probably turned off a lot of people who were looking for a practical reason to buy one. I’m actually surprised that Glock didn’t decide to go with a Gen1 G19 reissue. Those are actually unobtainium.
Since this was available a year ago, it looks like Glock just decided now to release another batch on the market to major vendors, not unlike SIG's intermittent release of the P228 years ago, after regular production has ceased.
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With all of the advancements Glock made to their gun, they are now going backwards? I get that the 17L has a following and the original 17 is a classic but I guess Glock is going after nostalgia.
Originally posted by DoctorSolo: I think it's cool, but maybe they should fix the accuracy issues and remove the plastic from the slide in the Gen5 version instead.
What are the accuracy issues? I’ve heard something but I haven’t seen anything.
Originally posted by bigwagon: I'd rather see a new "Gen 1" G19.
My understanding is that all of the "Gen1" G19's were prototypes, with a VERY tiny handful inadvertently making it out to the commercial market, as in we're talking the equivalent of two hands with fingers left over, levels of numbers. I believe I heard those numbers were around 5 or 6 guns, maybe. To put it in perspective The availability of the G19 RTF2 with the fish scale serrations put out between 2009 and 2010, dwarfs the production of any "Gen1" G19 prototype, by several orders of magnitude, if you'll forgive the hyperbole.
The G19 introduced in 1988, was essentially the beginning of Gen2 Glocks, so in reality if you purchase an early production Gen2 G19, you're essentially purchasing a "Gen1" variant. A few weeks ago I was in GT Distributors in Dallas, and they had a pair of of EXCELLENT condition GEN2 G19's, that by the serial numbers put them in production around 1990 and 1991 respectively. And my recollection was they were selling at a normal used gun price.
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