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Originally posted by rbmcmjr:
To the best of my knowledge, the large roll marks were introduced with the Mark IV Series 70. A Pre-Series will have the smaller and more discreet markings.

Pre-Series:



Mark IV Series 70:

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Originally posted by DSgrouse:
I went to the local Richmond show this weekend. Besides being in a old decrepit K mart, In the Shitz side of town, with no AC on an 80 degree day.

I did see two older 70 Series (850 to 2300), No pre 1970 70 Series, Plenty of the MKIV 70 Series new production. ranging from 850 to 1650.

I need to see the gun in person. I have not fared well on unique pistol quality on GB. As I am planning to make this a project gun. So, the better over all shape it is in, The less work my smith has to do.

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Originally posted by lyman:
like mentioned, a pre 1970 70 Series, is not likely to be found, since the 70's series started in 1970..... Colt's before 1970 are called Colt Commercial models, (with various names based on caliber)

I sold a nice 38 super, 70's series in the box, 95-98% gun, had a bomar installed on the rear, millet on the front, for $850 Sunday,

a Colt Commercial in 38 super, would have brought more in similar condition,
(Supers pre series 70 bring a premium, usually)

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Originally posted by hjs157:

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Originally posted by lyman:
like mentioned, a pre 1970 70 Series, is not likely to be found, since the 70's series started in 1970..... Colt's before 1970 are called Colt Commercial models, (with various names based on caliber)

I sold a nice 38 super, 70's series in the box, 95-98% gun, had a bomar installed on the rear, millet on the front, for $850 Sunday,

a Colt Commercial in 38 super, would have brought more in similar condition,
(Supers pre series 70 bring a premium, usually)

I believe the Colt Series 70 pistols hit the dealer's shelves in 1971. Prior to the introduction of the Series 70 pistols, the two full sized 1911 pistols offered by Colt were the .45 caliber Government Model and the .38 caliber 38 Super. From his posts, I understand the OP to be looking for a pre Series 70 Colt 38 Super as his base pistol. While not difficult to locate, the market commands a hefty premium for the older 38 Super models. I suspect the challenge will be locating a pistol in the niche between beater and high valued collectible. This sounds like an interesting project. Please keep us informed. Thanks!