I found this in the used gun case at my local Cabela’s and the price was very good so I decided to take it home. It looks nearly new. This model came with the safety levers and no decockers. It not the current Nocturne model so it isn’t cut for an optic. 2 19-round mags with the gun. Here’s a basic summary of my initial overview and shooting impressions for any interested:

Size wise it’s nearly identical to the G17 but about 1/3” longer in the grip. The grip allows all fingers and then some. You’d have to be Paul Bunyan to run out of room. The grip has textured panels that are fine but there’s not enough coverage along the sides near the top, and around the edges. The grip feels pretty slippery overall but the whole pistol looks and feels like a quality piece.

The front strap has raised serrations and their frequency and sharpness is better than those on the replaceable backstraps, which are more rounded and not aggressive enough for my personal preference. I’ll probably put some Talon grips or similar on mine eventually.

The trigger guard is large and well shaped and no Glock knuckle is possible. It comes down a bit further than the G17’s with the tops of the slides lined up. There are token serrations on the front of the trigger guard for those who want them. There are textured panels along the sides of the frame where your off-hand thumb rests during a thumbs-forward grip, or to use as an index point for your trigger finger. I like that. The safety levers work fine and you can snick them off and on fairly easily but it does require a little inward/sideways pressure from your thumb, as the ledge is pretty abbreviated. I’d prefer a larger shelf but the safeties are usable. The slide stop has two raised protrusions but they are somewhat rounded and I would prefer a sharper or more textured one, which I understand the current Nocturne has.

The Nocturne also has improved forward slide serrations that go over the top of the slide. Mine just has them on the angled portions of the slide, which of course is very short top to bottom due to CZ’s vertically thicker frame. There’s not much to grab onto and if you like to run the slide with your thumb pinched over the front like some of the tactical beardorators you may not like this one. You can definitely do press checks from the front but charging might be a hassle. I can’t do it.

The sights are 3-dot glow in the dark paint, and the left rear dot on mine came out and disappeared during the first mag. I’m not too upset since I hate 3 dot sights anyway but 2 remaining dots is kinda worse LOLZ. I’ll probably paint over the other one and eventually get a Dawson FO front or something. The sights seem to be regulated well for me and the bullets impacted close to the top of the front sight at 18 yards which is where I like them.

Shooting impressions were immediately positive. Recoil feels smooth and the trigger is very usable, if the DA is a bit stagey and rumbly. I wouldn’t really call it gritty but it’s not buttery smooth. It may improve with use. It feels like about 10.5-11 lbs. The SA trigger is a bit weird as there’s not a definable wall; rather a rolling break. However it is smooth and nice to shoot with just a bit of overtravel after the sear releases. The reset is very long, almost fully out, and I missed it once or twice especially after shooting other pistols back to back. But that’s a training issue. Overall it’s a very fun pistol to shoot.

I did a subjective and non-scientific recoil comparison shooting back to back with a stamped-slide P226, FN High Power (MKIII), Gen 3 Glock 19, Beretta 92FS Brigadier, Beretta PX4 Storm, and Gen 1 S&W M&P CORE 9L, and Gen 3 Glock 22 with 9mm conversion barrel. To me the Berettas felt the softest, and the High Power perhaps the most muzzle flip, but otherwise the rest felt extremely similar. The G22/17 was almost identical with perhaps a tiny bit less felt recoil than the P-09. Both are extremely pleasant to shoot.

I shot a few rounds of Federal HST 124 +P and they worked fine and didn’t feel any stronger than the 115 Blazer brass I shot all day.

I had one malfunction, on the last round of Blazer 115 in the mag, which was the last round of ammo I had that day LOL. That’s how it goes sometimes. It failed to fully chamber, like it hung up on the extractor or feed ramp. A tug on the slide sent it home and it fired fine.

Next range session my son shot it quite a bit and liked it a lot.

Overall I’m extremely pleased with the gun, and am looking forward to shooting it more.

Great review....even better because you're pretty much in lockstep with my own observations about that gun !

My son has a P09, and I really like it. His is some kind of tactical model with a threaded barrel and supressor-height sights, but otherwise the same gun. We bought it new and it came with the decocker installed and the safety parts in the box. I personally prefer the decocker setup on the CZs.

My two biggest gripes about his gun are similar to yours: the grip and the sights. The grip lacks adequate texture and it's rounded in all the wrong places so it tends to roll in my hand. Your sights did better than his, because our first trip out he didn't just lose one of the dots...the whole rear sight fell out of the dovetail. Not the end of the world because we ended up getting it cut for an optic and had to go with a different rear sight anyway, but still unacceptable.

Other than that the thing is awesome. It shoots very smoothly and is crazy fast to recover under recoil. We put a $30 McCarbo spring kit in it and polished the internals, and it may be the smoothest and lightest DA/SA trigger I've ever shot. One thing about the McCarbo kit, though...it gets occasional light strikes on hard primers. I got some really cheap Argentine primers earlier this year and have been using them for my training loads. His gun gets light strikes about 1/100 with those. In comoarison, my factory P320 handles them fine, but my P226 with Gray Guns strut and spring struggles with them as well, so it's not just the P09. I've been loading with CCI primers for our match loads and it's had zero problems with those. If I was going to use it for anything serious I'd have just done the polish job and left the factory springs alone.

I like that gun enough that if I wasn't already heavily invested in my Sigs and tied to them for work I'd be just fine outfitting myself with a P09 and P07 and getting rid of everything else. I haven't had a chance to shoot the Nocturne yet, but if it truly resolved the grip issues like it appears it should, that's got to be an awesome gun.

The P09 is in my top five of the pistols I own. It's my WC gun with a Olight Valkyrie on it

That’s good to hear. 92fstech, I’ve heard good and mediocre things about the MCARBO kit so it is very helpful to hear your experience with it for sure. Who did your optic cut? I shot the pistol again today and paid attention to how fast the front sight recovers and it’s a keeper for sure. I’m considering getting the Cajun pro kit but it’s over half the price I paid for the gun. But based on my previous experiences it should be worth every penny. Still mulling it over.

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The sights are 3-dot glow in the dark paint, and the left rear dot on mine came out and disappeared during the first mag.

Funny, that also happened to my P-07.

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That’s good to hear. 92fstech, I’ve heard good and mediocre things about the MCARBO kit so it is very helpful to hear your experience with it for sure. Who did your optic cut? I shot the pistol again today and paid attention to how fast the front sight recovers and it’s a keeper for sure. I’m considering getting the Cajun pro kit but it’s over half the price I paid for the gun. But based on my previous experiences it should be worth every penny. Still mulling it over.

Honestly, before you do that, watch this video from McCarbo and do all the polishing steps, just don't replace the springs. It'll take an hour or two, but cost you nothing. I think you'll be amazed at the difference it makes. CZ triggers tend to be really gritty out of the box, but a bit of polishing can make them fantastic. They are kinda a PITA to take apart and re-assemble compared to other guns, but it's do-able with good instructions and patience.



ETA: I forgot to answer your question. DP Custom works ( https://www.dpcustomworksllc.c...cz-p07-p09-optic-cut) did the optic cut. Their pricing was really reasonable, they did good work, and cut a new Glock-Spec dovetail behind the optic to accommodate a rear iron sight (the factory dovetail is too far forward and had to be removed as part of the optic cut...which wasn't a bad thing because that sight fell out anyway). The Glock rear sight dovetail gives you a ton of options...we kept the factory front sight and went with a .360 tall rear sight with a .125 notch from Dawson. It works perfect and hasn't moved.

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Originally posted by 1KPerDay:
That’s good to hear. 92fstech, I’ve heard good and mediocre things about the MCARBO kit so it is very helpful to hear your experience with it for sure. Who did your optic cut? I shot the pistol again today and paid attention to how fast the front sight recovers and it’s a keeper for sure. I’m considering getting the Cajun pro kit but it’s over half the price I paid for the gun. But based on my previous experiences it should be worth every penny. Still mulling it over.

Honestly, before you do that, watch this video from McCarbo and do all the polishing steps, just don't replace the springs. It'll take an hour or two, but cost you nothing. I think you'll be amazed at the difference it makes. CZ triggers tend to be really gritty out of the box, but a bit of polishing can make them fantastic. They are kinda a PITA to take apart and re-assemble compared to other guns, but it's do-able with good instructions and patience.



ETA: I forgot to answer your question. DP Custom works ( https://www.dpcustomworksllc.c...cz-p07-p09-optic-cut) did the optic cut. Their pricing was really reasonable, they did good work, and cut a new Glock-Spec dovetail behind the optic to accommodate a rear iron sight (the factory dovetail is too far forward and had to be removed as part of the optic cut...which wasn't a bad thing because that sight fell out anyway). The Glock rear sight dovetail gives you a ton of options...we kept the factory front sight and went with a .360 tall rear sight with a .125 notch from Dawson. It works perfect and hasn't moved.

thank you

I have the P07. Great gun. I definitely prefer the decock only version.

Yeah I would strongly prefer it also. I’ll look for some decock levers.

I love my P-07s. Both of them. So incredibly accurate and comfortable to shoot.

I went with Night Fision night sights, and highly recommend them.

Enjoy your P-09!