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Originally posted by 12131:
Guys, this is just an amateur write-up.

Comparisons of the Swiss, German, and American P210s

Part 1 - Characteristics, pluses, minuses, etc. (today)
Part 2 - Range shooting (will be at a later date)

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Swiss P210-5LS - Long Sport
The original SIG company in Switzerland already sold all of its firearm related business in 2000, and the new firearm company was now named SAN Swiss Arms AG. Made in 2003, this P210 is technically Swiss Arms P210. My reading tells me that about 200 of this model were made, and 2003 - 2005 was the last period that the P210 was made in Switzerland, ever. Obviously it is a long slide gun, sporting a 150 mm long barrel. It has heavy frame, target sight, and the American style mag release. The target grip looks funny but superbly ergonomic, and it is exactly the same as the other two P210s. Frame-to-slide fit is tight as a drum, with zero play. Slide riding on frame is smooth, but not as smooth as the American P210. Trigger on this one is the best of the three. The 2-stage trigger starts with the smooth uptake, and broke like glass at 3 lbs. Insane, as far as I'm concerned. I'll admit that I'm a trigger snob, and this one has the best trigger of all the guns I've ever had.

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German P210 Legend Super Target Silver 5" - I'd call this the P210 "LDC".
BH date code (2017). Has a 120 mm barrel, full length dust cover, full length guide rod, front strap checkering, target sight, and Super Target controls. Frame-to-slide fit is tight as a drum, with zero play. Slide riding on frame is the worse of the three, not glass smooth like the American. The 2-stage trigger has a slightly creepy uptake, then broke like glass at 3.5 lbs.

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American P210 - P210A-TGT
Yeah, I know. I swore to wait until next year. But seeing all these early good reviews, I said to myself, "To hell with it, I'm jumping on the band wagon!"
And, I'm glad I did. Man, this gun, just from a handling perspective, exudes quality at a fraction of the costs of its father and grandfather. Kudos to SIG USA for taking the time to get this right. Barrel is the same length as the German (120 mm). Frame-to-slide fit is not as tight as the Swiss and the German. There is a little play, there. But, the slide ride is the best of the three, almost as glass smooth as the Beretta 92FS. The 2-tage trigger on this one has the smoothest uptake of the three, before breaking like glass at 3.5 lbs. A production gun from SIG USA with an incredible trigger. This is a SIG that really deserves the SIG Custom Shop label, imho.
Love the fiber optic front.
Hate the front slide serrations.

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*** BONUS: *** All the mags are interchangeable on all three guns. Thank you!

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Originally posted by ridewv:
Beautiful pistols!
Question how does Hammerli fit it? Were they actually manufacturing some "Swiss" P210's?

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Originally posted by Darimian:
Great comparison...

*** Where is the test target of the American 210??? ***

Please, can you post the three targets for a one-to-one comparison?

Thanks,
Damo

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Originally posted by timrh23:
Swiss P210-5LS - Long Sport

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Originally posted by 12131:
^^^ The P210-5LS was made by Swiss Arms, wasn't it? SIG was no longer into firearm making business by this time. So, technically, it is not a SIG. You don't see the name "SIG" marked anywhere on these later models made by Swiss Arms. Or, did I learn the information all wrong?

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Originally posted by tigerbloodwinning:

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Originally posted by 12131:
^^^ The P210-5LS was made by Swiss Arms, wasn't it? SIG was no longer into firearm making business by this time. So, technically, it is not a SIG. You don't see the name "SIG" marked anywhere on these later models made by Swiss Arms. Or, did I learn the information all wrong?

Pretty sure you are right. In fact, after everything went to Swiss Arms, there was no tangible reason to keep calling it a SIG since Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft was no longer making guns. For strictly informative purposes, the names SIG, Swiss Arms, and Sig Sauer should be used appropriately. Casually though, we are all used to calling all of the guns “Sigs”. Easiest and most familiar, I guess (and never totally incorrect)