SIG-Sauer announces the P220 10mm

December 18, 2014, 03:18 PM

I think 1200 is fair if the pistol has the quality I'm anticipating. I just hope they get it right before they ship, instead of using initial shipments as their test animals. In either case, I'll buy when I know the bugs have been worked out, which I hope is a shorter cycle, the shorter the better. Imagine the 10mm, you can take down Superman with it, you can even spit in the wind.

December 18, 2014, 03:21 PM

jcat

quote:
Originally posted by BRL:
Me thinks ROMEO = Rail

hey, there's a guy's got his thinking cap on!

Phonetics...would have never made the connection.

December 18, 2014, 05:36 PM

46and2

quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
SIG-Sauer will sell every one of these pistols they produce. Don't like the price? Don't buy it.

oh I agree, on all accounts.

December 18, 2014, 06:42 PM

burnetma

quote:
Originally posted by 10-7 leo:
Here is the first add I've seen for one. This will be too expensive for me.

http://www.osagecountyguns.com...0+10mm#page=0&top=1&

Getting closer.....

The excitement is killing me!!!

December 18, 2014, 07:12 PM

46and2

quote:
Originally posted by scott1970:
I know of at least one LEO who has expressed intentions of securing one of these through the police discount in order to flip it on gunbroker. We got into a argument after I told him that would be a jerk move. It went downhill from there.

great, yet another dishonorable LEO making it hard(er) to trust the good ones.

thank you for being a stand up guy and telling the cheating, lying, rule breaker the truth.

I wonder, what sort of real trouble could they get into for it? I doubt it's illegal, but it's surely against both the rules of the discount program and perhaps department policy.

anyway, thanks again for being honest.

/drift

December 18, 2014, 10:45 PM

The Crimson

quote:
Originally posted by 46and2:
I wonder, what sort of real trouble could they get into for it? I doubt it's illegal, but it's surely against both the rules of the discount program and perhaps department policy.

Unless he has an FFL, it is absolutely illegal to buy a weapon with the expressed intention to sell it to someone else. Perhaps going through an FFL to sell it not illegal, but not not-fucked-up.

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December 18, 2014, 10:51 PM

LDD

quote:
Originally posted by The Crimson:
quote:
Originally posted by 46and2:
I wonder, what sort of real trouble could they get into for it? I doubt it's illegal, but it's surely against both the rules of the discount program and perhaps department policy.

Unless he has an FFL, it is absolutely illegal to buy a weapon with the expressed intention to sell it to someone else. Perhaps going through an FFL to sell it not illegal, but not not-fucked-up.

"One-time" for-profit sale is not illegal.

Doing it as a livelihood without a license is.

The fact that the buyer already has a job and is only buying one means he probably will not be prosecuted.

Yeah it is kind of an asshole move, but not illegal. It might violate the first question on the 4473, but unless the LEO buyer has another buyer to buy the gun from him (the LEO), on paper, it would be a hard case to press.

December 18, 2014, 11:43 PM

DanH

I really doubt that $1700 is for one of those models mentioned on Pg 1. However, $1,200-$1,400 isn't unreasonable for a 5" Stainless 10mm.

December 19, 2014, 12:04 AM

Georgeair

Until I see an official MAP from someone I trust, that $1700 is as meaningless as the $90,000 first delivery marked up Corvette Stingray to me.

December 19, 2014, 08:08 AM

jcat

quote:
Originally posted by DanH:
I really doubt that $1700 is for one of those models mentioned on Pg 1. However, $1,200-$1,400 isn't unreasonable for a 5" Stainless 10mm.

quote:
Originally posted by Georgeair:
Until I see an official MAP from someone I trust, that $1700 is as meaningless as the $90,000 first delivery marked up Corvette Stingray to me.

If you look at one of my earlier posts on pg30, there's one dealer already showing $1440 street price.

December 19, 2014, 09:06 AM

OsageCountyGuns

quote:
Originally posted by DanH:
I really doubt that $1700 is for one of those models mentioned on Pg 1. However, $1,200-$1,400 isn't unreasonable for a 5" Stainless 10mm.

The price we posted is Sig's MSRP price. We post MSRP pricing and display that for unreleased products and then when we receive inventory for sale we re-evaluate. We use MSRP pricing initially as it keeps Sig happy.

December 19, 2014, 09:45 AM

burnetma

quote:
Originally posted by OsageCountyGuns:
quote:
Originally posted by DanH:
I really doubt that $1700 is for one of those models mentioned on Pg 1. However, $1,200-$1,400 isn't unreasonable for a 5" Stainless 10mm.

The price we posted is Sig's MSRP price. We post MSRP pricing and display that for unreleased products and then when we receive inventory for sale we re-evaluate. We use MSRP pricing initially as it keeps Sig happy.

So Sig has given MSRP for the SAO. How about the other models?

December 19, 2014, 10:54 AM

Il Cattivo

And please tell me there are other 5" models.

December 19, 2014, 11:08 AM

parabellum

You guys seem anxious. I can see that we've created a frenzy.

My work here is done.

December 19, 2014, 11:53 AM

SPG

quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
You guys seem anxious. I can see that we've created a frenzy.

My work here is done.

Well played. Can't wait to get mine

December 19, 2014, 12:21 PM

Grayguns

I'm actually a bit surprised that the MSRP on the SAO P220-10 is less than $1900, considering that this is an entirely new limited-production pistol that required a lot of engineering and unique components.

$1770 is cheap.

If you disagree, I invite you to go try and build one yourself.

-Bruce

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December 19, 2014, 12:26 PM

parabellum

Bruce, you and I agree on many things. This is how I know you're a wise man.

December 19, 2014, 03:40 PM

BRL

quote:
Originally posted by Grayguns:
I'm actually a bit surprised that the MSRP on the SAO P220-10 is less than $1900, considering that this is an entirely new limited-production pistol that required a lot of engineering and unique components.

$1770 is cheap.

If you disagree, I invite you to go try and build one yourself.

-Bruce

So you don't anticipate that the 10mm will be a staple in their lineup or am I interpreting that wrong?

December 19, 2014, 08:12 PM

Tengoo

quote:
Originally posted by scott1970:
Maybe the absurd $1770 is nothing more than the usual inflated MSRP price. That would be a start.

Wow...I sure hope so. I'll be paying for mine with the currently anemic Canadian dollars, so my price number may approach that in any case. I'll just hope that some of that price is all about the camo paint job and ROMEO and etc.

I paid C$1250 for my P227....but then I saw one in a showcase for just under a grand. Doh!

December 20, 2014, 07:50 AM

Aglifter

$1700 would require it to be built to a considerably higher standard than a normal SIG, IMO.

Now, if it was fitted as well as some of the West German ones I've handled, I could see a street price of $1300 or so.

STIs product quality has become quite good - and Les Baers aren't too far off that $1700 price.