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SIG-Sauer announces the P220 10mm

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November 09, 2014, 07:03 AM
burnetma
SIG-Sauer announces the P220 10mm
Any new information from Sig? Progress updates?

Please & thank you.
November 09, 2014, 10:25 AM
Gandog56
Only thing I saw was this in the original announcement.

quote:
SIG Sauer has announced that a 10mm version of their venerable P220 will be released at the SHOT Show in January.



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November 09, 2014, 12:33 PM
Grayguns
Nothing too specific, but it's progressing well I believe. I'm eager to see the production prototypes!

-Bruce




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November 10, 2014, 02:03 PM
Gary1911A1
quote:
Originally posted by Grayguns:
Nothing too specific, but it's progressing well I believe. I'm eager to see the production prototypes!

-Bruce


Good to hear.
November 10, 2014, 05:16 PM
burnetma
quote:
Originally posted by Grayguns:
Nothing too specific, but it's progressing well I believe. I'm eager to see the production prototypes!

-Bruce


Thank you.
November 10, 2014, 06:04 PM
roberth
Start looking for powder now.

Powders with possibilities are HS7, Blue Dot, AA7, Longshot, and 2400 for 180g to 200g bullets.




November 10, 2014, 11:40 PM
TxMark
I wish I wish I wish...that someone would just take my money and assure me I am on the list for one of the first.

Then tell me when...

Mark


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half this nation is permanently sucking on the big free tit or just plain out of their liberal twisted minds.
November 11, 2014, 06:03 PM
Gary1911A1
quote:
Originally posted by TxMark:
I wish I wish I wish...that someone would just take my money and assure me I am on the list for one of the first.

Then tell me when...

Mark


I understand how you feel and this is after Viltor failed to reintroduced the Bren Ten.
November 14, 2014, 11:18 AM
nra-life-member
Wonder if Sig would offer an Exchange Kit for the 10mm to take you to a 45 ACP?

I had an original Delta Elite in 10mm, that I ended up selling to get a Colt 45. I had asked several shops about a conversion and at the time (about 15 years ago) was told converting wasn't possible.

With Sig exchange kits available for many of the P series, a "set" sold as a 10 and 45 might make a good combo.
November 15, 2014, 10:06 AM
pgoins
I heat treat about a million mags a year for sig and can tell you there have been a lot of new 10mm mags coming through our furnaces over the last 2 months. Can't be long.
November 15, 2014, 11:15 AM
BRL
^^^ Yeah buddy! Big Grin



I am not BIPOLAR. I don't even like bears.


November 15, 2014, 12:57 PM
oldRoger
Regarding powder for 10mm;
The most effective heavy bullet (180 & 200 grain) powders I have found over many years of testing are AA-7 and VV 3n37.
The 10mm case is on the border line of being too small for the famous 200gn @ 1200fps load.
I dislike compressed pistol loads and do not go that way.

I would like to try CFE-Pistol but alas it seems to be vaporware at this time.
The powder shortage seems to be getting worse not better.
November 15, 2014, 01:03 PM
Il Cattivo
quote:
Originally posted by pgoins:
I heat treat about a million mags a year for sig and can tell you there have been a lot of new 10mm mags coming through our furnaces over the last 2 months. Can't be long.

Not to be nosy (well, OK, I'm being nosy) but have you happened to compare one of them to a standard Mec Gar for a 220 to see if there's any difference in front-to-back length? There have been a couple of hints that the 10mm frame may be something new and different, and curiosity is driving me up a tree.
November 15, 2014, 05:50 PM
Gary1911A1
quote:
Originally posted by pgoins:
I heat treat about a million mags a year for sig and can tell you there have been a lot of new 10mm mags coming through our furnaces over the last 2 months. Can't be long.


Thank you! That is good news.
November 15, 2014, 07:05 PM
DanH
quote:
Originally posted by pgoins:
I heat treat about a million mags a year for sig and can tell you there have been a lot of new 10mm mags coming through our furnaces over the last 2 months. Can't be long.


Any idea how many rounds they hold?
November 15, 2014, 08:33 PM
c1steve
quote:
Any idea how many rounds they hold?


I believe it will be 9 rounds, as that is what usually happens when .45 pistols are converted to .40 or .357 Sig hold. Forty caliber being a "short and weak" 10mm.


-c1steve
November 17, 2014, 01:32 AM
aryfrosty
quote:
Originally posted by soggy_spinout:
Sweet. But since I already have a couple of P220 SSEs the big questions from me will be: can I do a conversion with my existing frames and, just as important, will SIG offer it as a kit?

Thanks. That's my question too. I have a nice one I would like to convert if it will be possible. The 10mm made perfect at last.


"When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave Them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: 'Stick to the Devil you know.' "

- Rudyard Kipling, The Gods of the Copybook Headings, 1919

November 17, 2014, 10:12 AM
Il Cattivo
If they're coming up with a new frame (and from Bruce Gray's comments, that seems to be the case), then does it really make sense to hold out for a conversion kit or are you being harder on your existing frame than you need to be?
November 17, 2014, 02:54 PM
aryfrosty
IF they're making a new frame then it might not. I don't read the comments that way but could be wrong...If they are generating a new frame would it BE a P220 or would there be a new model number? All questions worth asking.


"When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave Them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: 'Stick to the Devil you know.' "

- Rudyard Kipling, The Gods of the Copybook Headings, 1919

November 18, 2014, 06:37 PM
pgoins
quote:
Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
quote:
Originally posted by pgoins:
I heat treat about a million mags a year for sig and can tell you there have been a lot of new 10mm mags coming through our furnaces over the last 2 months. Can't be long.

Not to be nosy (well, OK, I'm being nosy) but have you happened to compare one of them to a standard Mec Gar for a 220 to see if there's any difference in front-to-back length? There have been a couple of hints that the 10mm frame may be something new and different, and curiosity is driving me up a tree.


It's tough to compare model to model because of the way they code them. I can tell they are definately different than any of the other mags we treat. They are Stainless also.