...it's not what you would be led to believe.

Johnny is remarkably patient in this video and I suppose he's grateful that this gent and his pistol allowed him to hold a clinic on what not to do to a gun you depend upon to perform at the most critical moment.

With regard to aftermarket parts, you will find Trijicon night sights and Wolff magazine springs on my Glocks. All else (aside from WMLs) is OEM.

The vast amount of the time I read of somebody having issues with their Glock it usually goes like I am having multiple failures I only have ….. proceeds to list off all kinds of non OEM crap added. It happens with other pistols as well.

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Originally posted by cslinger:
The vast amount of the time I read of somebody having issues with their Glock it usually goes like I am having multiple failures I only have ….. proceeds to list off all kinds of non OEM crap added. It happens with other pistols as well.

Exactly ^^^^
I think I heard someone in the video mention stacking tolerances….
Folks add all sorts of aftermarket goodies, but those parts are not held to any universal tolerance specs for the parts to interact efficiently. So unless you understand the key areas to fine tune to make the firearm run properly you end up with a mess.

This is really informative. So even changing to an aftermarket back plate can be an issue.

Appreciated his talking about when the recoil spring assembly and other springs should be changed. Good info.

Thank you for the great video.

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Originally posted by cslinger:
The vast amount of the time I read of somebody having issues with their Glock it usually goes like I am having multiple failures I only have ….. proceeds to list off all kinds of non OEM crap added. It happens with other pistols as well.

While true, lack of lubrication and maintenance also plays a factor. Not uncommon that people don’t take care of their guns. A stock gun will tolerate it much better. They mod the gun and it isn’t as receptive to the lack of care. So it’s the mods fault and not the lack of lube/maint.

I love a good aftermarket part as much as the next guy, lol, that guy took it to an extreme. Honestly what parts of that gun were OEM? The frame, the barrel (?), the connector? He had such a mishmash of parts it would be hard to take him seriously. Especially since that was his carry gun.

Everybody has opinions. My HK's (I consider these HD or carry) have some aftermarket parts. They are all GreyGuns parts. Maybe I am wrong but I consider these parts equal or superior to the original Teutonic parts. I love a good Lenny video but that guy would be driving around a wagon pulled by donkeys town to town if he lived a couple centuries ago. No disrespect but I don't trust him not to sell shitty products right alongside solid ones. $$$$$

I watched the whole video in installments (I thought but maybe not) but I somehow missed the gun failing the drop test. The first time he hit it with the mallet it failed but he immediately said something to the effect of "maybe I didn't rack it" and tried it a bunch more times and it didn't fail. Probably poor retention skills on my part but if anybody has a time stamp for that part I would love to watch it (not rewatching that whole thing lol).

I gave my 43 away to my nephew. These stupid Glock threads make me want to blue label a 43x or 48. jones probably has convinced me a 48 is the way for me to go.

To me, that is a guy trying to buy skill.

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To me, that is a guy trying to buy skill.

I agree that this is a common thing with the "gun bros" who show up with heavily modified/parts swapped guns... that and trying to "look cool"...

And in my experience as a LE trainer, there was an inordinate amount of people who would 1) have problems with non-stock guns of all makes and 2) have problems with lack of skills when they used guns with lots of aftermarket parts.

As an instructor it was a red flag for me, and I exclusively trained cops... I imagine the problem is much more visible for someone like Jerry who trains the general consumer/enthusiast.

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Originally posted by thumperfbc:

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Originally posted by Sgt 127:
To me, that is a guy trying to buy skill.

I agree that this is a common thing with the "gun bros" who show up with heavily modified/parts swapped guns... that and trying to "look cool"....

To me, the coolest guns are slightly modded 1911’s, with no blueing left on the front of the slide and a bald spot on the rear of the slide above the thumb safety.

Or a revolver that looks like a river rock with all the edges shiny and smooth.

No matter what you are into, somebody will always take it too far.

I watched this entire video the other night, Johnny’s patience is indeed on another level. All of the junk parts on that mans Glock…and nary a word of criticism.

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Originally posted by cslinger:
It happens with other pistols as well.

Of course, and I did not mean to imply this happens only with Glocks. All self-loading pistols are susceptible to greater chance of malfunctioning when heavily modified.

It just so happens that Glocks are the LEGO of pistols, with countless aftermarket parts which can be slapped on.

However, this guy was ignoring even the basics. Worn-out recoil springs are one of the easiest ways to make an otherwise reliable pistol malfunction.

No I wasn’t inferring or intending that “it happens to other pistols” comment as a “come back” so to speak just trying to make sure any readers who may be new to the game understand that adding a bunch of aftermarket crap as well as assuming maintenance isn’t necessary affects pretty much all guns. See it with HK’s all the time. Like you said though Glock is the LEGO of pistols and it seems like there is a Pep Boys worth of crappy parts out there for them for every good part.

I have bought a bunch of aftermarket parts for pistol I own/have owned and have noted some tolerance issues with only a couple. I have come to the realization, "when in doubt, OEM it out". At least the factory parts are of good/reputable quality.

Holy frickin shyte show Batman! The only things I usually change are springs, sights, and grips unless it's a target gun. I think that guy had more aftermarket in that one Glock than I have in my whole gun room.

Para, just out of curiosity, why do you prefer Wolff magazine springs over the factory ones?

I’ve never installed a non-factory part in any Glock I’ve ever owned (no disdain for them, I just never felt the need to). I understand the sights though. I almost never change the sights on any pistol, but on Glocks, I swap the polymer ones for steel.

Glock OEM springs are fine, but when you put Glock +2 floorplates on G17 and G19 magazines, you must replace the OEM springs with springs that have an extra coil, and for that purpose, I use the Wolff +10% springs for the respective magazines, because Wolff achieves this added spring power by using an additional coil over OEM length springs.

Only magazines in which I have installed the extended floorplate get Wolff springs.

Finally watched the whole video.

Very entertaining and informative. Without needing to comment on the actual content, I will say that listening to someone so knowledgeable always has me kind of in awe. Not surprising but more respect.