July 16, 2022, 07:00 PM
kkinaShe's a beauty. Is that a 2-piece guide rod?
July 17, 2022, 09:43 AM
Bob RIVery nice! it has a solid but refreshing look to it.
July 17, 2022, 11:04 AM
pedropcolaI can't imagine why it might be grouped with CZ's. Quite the mystery. lol Nice gun. I'm a big fan of anything CZ. Or CZ like.
July 17, 2022, 02:16 PM
bac1023quote:
Originally posted by pedropcola:
I can't imagine why it might be grouped with CZ's. Quite the mystery. lol Nice gun. I'm a big fan of anything CZ. Or CZ like.
I hear you, but CZ and CZ Custom are two totally different companies. In fact, many other CZ clones are built more like CZ than these guns are.
July 17, 2022, 06:32 PM
pedropcolaNo I get that, it’s a CZ clone that accepts most if not all CZ internals. It’s grouped together because they are basically the same gun. CZC makes their own high end frame and slide but if you picked one up blind folded, other than weight, you would think it was a CZ75. Which Angus did by design. It’s not like he made a whole new gun. He improved on an existing one. Hence my “surprise” comment. Awesome gun either way.
July 17, 2022, 06:57 PM
DaveSHow would you compare it to your Phoenix Redback?
July 17, 2022, 07:41 PM
bac1023quote:
Originally posted by pedropcola:
No I get that, it’s a CZ clone that accepts most if not all CZ internals. It’s grouped together because they are basically the same gun. CZC makes their own high end frame and slide but if you picked one up blind folded, other than weight, you would think it was a CZ75. Which Angus did by design. It’s not like he made a whole new gun. He improved on an existing one. Hence my “surprise” comment. Awesome gun either way.
Thanks
Honestly, I have a lot of CZ pistols. I don’t buy the standard models, just the competition oriented stuff. I think I can say with confidence that there are some CZ clones built a lot nicer than what CZ does. That’s not to say CZ doesn’t put out very good pistols.
July 17, 2022, 07:49 PM
bac1023quote:
Originally posted by DaveS:
How would you compare it to your Phoenix Redback?
Hard to beat the Swiss.
I think Phoenix builds the best CZ clones in the world, bar none. In fact, they build some of the best pistols in the world regardless of the design. Not much compares to them.
That's not to say the A01-LD isn't a very high quality pistol, because it most certainly is.

Here's my standard A01-LD for comparison...
July 17, 2022, 08:35 PM
pedropcolaAgree. Where CZ shines is that their comp guns can compete with the 4k+ guns at a fraction of the price. They nail the price to performance curve.
My highest end CZ is a Shadow 2 Urban. I’ve shot my buddies Czechmate and Parrot. They are fantastic guns but too “comp” for me.
July 17, 2022, 08:45 PM
monoblokI was always under the impression that it was high level of Hobdell's early creations within CZ Custom that motivated CZ themselves to bring out their own lineup of "tuner" pistols, like the subsequent Shadow 2 and the Tactical Orange. My own 75 T/SA from over a decade ago is an example of CZ Custom taking the basic bones of a 75B and turning it into a masterpiece of a shooter, which was then made obtainable either direct from CZ Custom or ordered through CZ-USA (which was the channel my T/SA was came to me by). Meanwhile at the same time, I would've guessed that there were more than a few put-off and perturbed gunsmiths and designers inside CZ who looked at Hobdell's outside work and thought,
"We can do that, and do it even better."And now we have a plethora of excellent pistols to choose from from both sources. And then there are the
other clones as well.
FWIW, that squared-off monolithic dust cover on the A01-LD just looks ^!*!#@^**% bad-ass.

July 17, 2022, 08:47 PM
BB61As always, thanks for the introduction to a new high end line of pistols. Great pictures too!