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Originally posted by leonidas211:

Putting the same magazine into the legion. Magazine will seat, round will not chamber.....

Quite the mystery we have.

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Originally posted by leonidas211:

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Originally posted by Factor8:
Do you currently have the magwell installed? Also pictures would help diagnose things a lot faster.

Yes. Just as it was out of the box.

I fail to see how photos will help? This isn’t exactly custom set up here..

I have to look up my photo bucket account.

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Originally posted by Factor8:

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Originally posted by leonidas211:

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Originally posted by Factor8:
Do you currently have the magwell installed? Also pictures would help diagnose things a lot faster.

Yes. Just as it was out of the box.

I fail to see how photos will help? This isn’t exactly custom set up here..

I have to look up my photo bucket account.

If you are using a X5 Legion with the magwell you can seat the standard 17 round magazine in it but it is tough because of the extra grip length. Take off the magwell and see if the same magazine gives you issues.

I attached a picture of 3 magazines that I just took. The first magazine is a standard new style 17 round magazine. The second is a 17 round Legion magazine. The last magazine is a 21 round magazine. You can see the difference in length in the legion and 21 round magazine, it is there to help clear the magwell and seat the magazine securely in the X5.

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Originally posted by Factor8:
I have never tried this but no, a standard magazine will not seat in a X5 Legion with the magwell installed. I just tried it on 2 X5 Legions. If you remove the magwell they will work fine. I use the 21 round magazines and Legion mags when I shoot them.

I am just curious how hard you are pushing in the magazines. Mine stop before the mag catch, It is very noticable.

Here are some pictures showing the magazines and how they fit on a X Frame with a magwell. The standard magazine hits the front of the magwell and stops about a half of an inch from seating in the gun.

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Originally posted by leonidas211:

I feel so vindicated.....

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Originally posted by hrcjon:
The discussion on mags that work in this thread confuses me given the original post. Here's someone who says they beat the army service life standard by 4x or better (army required service life of 25,000 rounds per pistol selection criteria, current life >100K for at least two of these guns),
Who says that the MRBF is >50K rounds (6,944 MRBF (99 percent probability is the army test standard results) with no maintenance.
Obviously some mag works, whatever else works is just gravy...

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Originally posted by hrcjon:
I get that issue on mags is worth discussing. and I appreciate the knowledge on what does/doesn't work. But what I am struggling to figure out is that those two guns and their usage and stoppage data in your original post make the stoppage data we have from the army trials like ridiculous. By amounts that make any statistical probability on a distribution curve zero.
Any thoughts on that?