Nils Jonasson ***DID NOT*** beat everyone at Area 2 Championship using iron sight pistol. :)
Pretty impressive performance if I'm reading this correctly. He had 2008.9377 total match points. He tops everyone, including Open, Limited Optics, Carry Optics. Anyone here attend the match? I would love to hear your comments.
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February 01, 2025, 04:06 PM
patw
Like others, I believe that practice makes for a good shot and not what you put on/in your gun. I am a so-so shot with the rds, compared to irons and am still trying to get used to it. The rds is not for everyone but is a nice option if you practice enough with it or can get used to it.
February 01, 2025, 05:12 PM
Jupiter
I noticed there were 44 shooters classified as Grand Master shooters at the Area 2 Championship. Only 2 shooters in production were classified as Grand Master. Nils was one of them. The rest (42), were spread out between Carry Optics, Limited, Limited Optics, Open and PCC. There should have been lots of experience using Red Dots in this group yet someone with a lowly set of iron sights won the match.
I have not shot USPSA in a number of years. Can someone be classified as GM by just shooting classifier stages only? If so, I suspect many of these so-called GMs he competed against are not really GM shooters at all. Gaming classifier stages should not allow you to be classified as GM. IMO, the GM designation should be based on major match performance only. There are far too many shooters listed as GMs that never come close to winning a major match.
Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell
February 01, 2025, 07:00 PM
DaBigBR
Nils won production at Area 2. He finished 32nd overall at 82.84%. There were also three limited shooters that finished higher overall. He did put about 18% on 2nd place in production.
Originally posted by Jupiter: I have not shot USPSA in a number of years. Can someone be classified as GM by just shooting classifier stages only? If so, I suspect many of these so-called GMs he competed against are not really GM shooters at all. Gaming classifier stages should not allow you to be classified as GM. IMO, the GM designation should be based on major match performance only. There are far too many shooters listed as GMs that never come close to winning a major match.
Yes, you can make any classification solely through classifiers. While there is a lot of talk about the so-called "paper GM", it's usually people that are not GMs trying to throw that out there. Even a "paper GM" is monster of a shooter who will place fine. The big national level guys like Nils, JJ, Mason Lane, Joey Sauerland, Brantley Merriam, Mike Hwang, Tom Castro, Max Michel, Max Leograndis, and many others I can't think of are indeed a different animal, but it doesn't mean your local GM isn't outstanding.
February 01, 2025, 07:09 PM
Jupiter
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Originally posted by DaBigBR: Nils won production at Area 2. He finished 32nd overall at 82.84%. There were also three limited shooters that finished higher overall. He did put about 18% on 2nd place in production.
Thanks for the link to Practiscore, DaBigBR. Looking at the numbers at the USPSA link, it looked like he had the highest score (Match points) of 2008.9377. The practiscore link shows everything ( points and time). Thanks for clearing this up for me.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Jupiter, February 01, 2025 08:12 PM
Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell
February 01, 2025, 07:52 PM
cas
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Originally posted by DaBigBR: Even a "paper GM" is monster of a shooter who will place fine.
Know some PCC GM's who disprove that comment.
February 01, 2025, 08:22 PM
DaBigBR
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Originally posted by Jupiter:
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Originally posted by DaBigBR: Nils won production at Area 2. He finished 32nd overall at 82.84%. There were also three limited shooters that finished higher overall. He did put about 18% on 2nd place in production.
Thanks for the link to Practiscore, DaBigBR. Looking at the numbers at the USPSA link, it looked like he had the highest score (Match points) of 2008.9377. The practiscore link shows everything ( points and time). Thanks for clearing this up for me.
Still not quite. Points and scoring can be confusing.
Nils score of 2008.9377 in Production is because he won every stage except for one, so he got 100% of the possible points on those stages, and dropped 1.0633 points on the sole stage that he did not win.
By comparison, Isaac Lockwood won Carry Optics but only one three stages.
Every competitor ends up with two scores: an overall score (percentage of overall winner) and a division score (percentage of division winner) for each stage and the match as a whole. You can see this by filtering the PractiScore results by division. Even the overall winner "only" put up 1896 points because he only won one stage overall (and six in his division).
Practical shooting, particularly at majors is a game of consistency. Eric Grauffel won Carry Optics nationals last year without winning a single stage.
Don't let any of this sound like I'm taking anything away from Nils. There is no question that he is one of the greats.