I have wanted a P365 for a few years now, but the deal just hasn't come along that I WANT!
Definitely don't NEED one just a pistol that seems like what most everybody has turned too due to its increased magazine capacity
I see no need to spend $400-$500 on another carry pistol
Plus having to spend $50ea on magazines, SIG Sauer's Magazines are Very Overpriced IMO

Currently carry either a M&P Shield or a Glock 43X, have many others but these are the size & weight that suit me best

Grab the Glock 43X the most as it has Ameriglo Night Sights but have a few extra Holsters for the Shield because I've had it longer
I like the full grip I can get with the Glock 43X & The Shield with its extended magazine & know that SIG offers one too
I have six magazines for the Shield & four for the Glock but never carry spares as I might as well just carry two of the same pistol +

If ammo capacity was my thing I would just buy a Shield Arms S15 Magazine for the Glock 43X for about the same price as SIG Sauer's Overpriced magazines
I'm not paying $100 for two magazines or I would have extras for My P320

Sig mags are expensive but you can certainly find them for less than $50 each. One place to look is Osage County Guns. You can often find Sig mags there for about $35 each. P365 mags here.

If you look around there are other places where you can find mags at a decent price.

I had a Shield 1.0 before I picked up my first P365. The 365 just fits my hand better therefore I shoot it better. YMMV.

I am not going to be an enabler.

I also don't buy new guns just because, they have to fill a need. If the cost of magazines puts you off then you should not spent $400+ on a gun you do not need. And don't forget holsters. I did get a 365 to replace my only subcompact 9 which was a Beretta nano, and I am very happy with the switch. sold the nano. For me it was a no brainer but for you not so much.

You could rent one and see if you like it better than what you have, if so buy one and sell the Shield and/or Glock, if not stick with what you have. My 2 cents.

As someone who has owned the 43, 43X and multiple Shield series guns (still have a shield plus but dont carry it), in my opinion the P365 series is a better platform in every way.

Honestly I can't believe how well they shoot for such a small gun. Also I love that you can use the standard or XL grip module to what fits you best.

I currently carry the XL most of the time, but have a standard P365 and a P365 in an XL sized grip module at the ready when needed. All of my P365s carry the factory flat trigger which I absolutely love.

I sold a P938 and got the P365. It's a better gun overall.

Yes, there is extra capacity in the mag, they are a new proprietery design, not the older 6-7 round single stacks that have been made for 50 years. A lot of mags even share the same latch hole and are functionally interchangeable, not the P365, which is why it's both new and expensive. The savings is not paying $150 for a metal frame, and SIG did handle it with restraint not making it overly embellished. It looks professional grade vs the scallop on the 938 slide.

Take down and assembly is generic and easy, just don't pull the FCU out, not required. The assembly of a 938 has a tricky part which can be damaged. A safety can be had, ambidextrous. I installed my own as a RH only. There are extra capacity mags, and there is where a point can be made.

We used to top off +1 with the 7 round guns, increasing to 8 carried, which was a benefit. With a ten round, it's +3 without all the monkey motion of dropping the mag, adding one, then shoving a tightly packed magazine into a closed slide. It's also one less mag change shooting 20, a 938 would get two mag changes for 18. Thats still ammo + and less down time swapping mags.

Practice is improved with less down time, too. And reloading the 938 single stack really requires a mag loader, the 365 will too. Much easier on the hands.

The 365 also has a lot of aftermarket options that a normal fixed frame gun doesn't, along with the ability to more easily change parts compared to almost gunsmith level work - a Mustang trigger in a 938 was hammer and punch work, on a 365 it's parts with springs once the FCU is out. You also get to change grips - which allows changes in stippling styles and colors. Longer grips to fit longer mags - up to 15, longer barrels and slides are drop in.

The P300's are becoming the AR's of owner alteration, no special skills needed. Add an RMR, slides are available. Threaded barrels for compensators or suppressors. Or you can just carry it as is, I do, the safety my only alteration. Same manual of arms as a 938. Trigger too stiff? They weren't originally, hence many moving to a safety, and it can be changed easily.

I transitioned from a .380 Kahr to the SIG, same kind of holster, and found it was just as easy to carry as before, no hassles. It's not one of those "you forgot you were carrying" guns - something that comfortable, to me, seems a bit small in cartridge power now. It's supposed to be comfort you carry, which is different.

Extra guns lying around? I'm considering selling them off, no need to keep them. As for mag prices, I have a 4566 TSW, and the 3Gen Smith mags in .45 are now bumping $55 - folks are looking at Pro Mags to keep them running, which do. I suspect SIG mags aren't quite so expensive in comparison to a reference.

Not enabling so much as comparing - like an '80 F150 vs '05 F150. Change is good.

Try the 365X instead of 365. Shoot both and decide.

I don't understand why you need to be "talked" into a P365 if you're already happy w/ your G43X and Shield. There are so many P365s out there now that with a little looking, you can find a light-to-moderately used one in the low $400s. I saw a used one at a shop the other day w/ two 10rd mags, two 12rd mags, & a nice IWB Kydex holster for $430.

S&W has a $50 gift card rebate on Shields right now. You can get a Shield Plus "Bug Out Bundle" w/ five mags, FAK, & shoulder bag for under $500. I have a P365 and Shield Plus and like both. The Plus IMHO is vastly improved over its 1.0 & 2.0 predecessors.

I won't try to talk you into one at all. It seems you've got what you need covered already.
I could see if you're replacing a small single stack pistol with a pistol having more capacity like I did. In that case it was a small single stack Kahr and I bought a Springfield Hellcat because it had more ammunition capacity.
Save the money and buy ammunition. If you can find it.

Sold my Shield and gave away my G43. The Sig365 is better in my hands, in every possible way than either of those two guns. The increased capacity is just a nice bonus. Ie, if the 365 had the same capacity as the Shield/G43, I would still prefer the 365. It’s that good.

If you pay 50 for a mag you are just being lazy. They are cheaper out there all day long.

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
Sold my Shield and gave away my G43. The Sig365 is better in my hands, in every possible way than either of those two guns. The increased capacity is just a nice bonus. Ie, if the 365 had the same capacity as the Shield/G43, I would still prefer the 365. It’s that good.

If you pay 50 for a mag you are just being lazy. They are cheaper out there all day long.

I'd pretty much agree with this except I didn't give away the G43, I stuck it in the back of the safe.

I have a Glock 43 and 48, and a SIG P365XL, but my P365 gets carried almost daily. I shoot them all equally poorly, but the P365 just seems to tick all the boxes.

When I was a detective I was offered a Shield as a duty gun, but had, and still have, qualms about carrying a subcompact as a primary duty gun.

I ALWAYS carry a spare mag, irregardless of the pistol I'm carrying. It isn't just for reloads, but also for malfunction clearances and the weight helps balance out the pistol somewhat.

I had a G43, and shot it well enough. Made due with the 6 round mags, added some extensions to make me feel better.
Shot a 365 one day……..and now I have 2.
Sold my G43 cause I shoot the 365 that much better.
I’ve shot IDPA with the one I added a MDRS on a few times. Did so well, I carry that one at work.
I have a SAS model I like for backup in the pocket. Snag free, uses then same mags, and accurate enough for most defensive use.
But, you do you. My friends carry Glocks, S&W and Springfields……some carry Sigs.

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Some of the handguns sitting around the house
May have forgotten about a few here & there

If I could give you the experience of carrying a standard 365 in a Sticky pocket holster and realize that you have 13 rounds on tap with great sights and a controllable weapon, maybe you'd see the light. Well worth the $530 I paid 2 years ago.

Believe me, I'm all for having lots of different platforms to play with at the range. When it comes down to being a gunfighter, I want ONE gun with ONE consistent manual of arms, with ONE load, with ONE type of magazine, with ONE type of holster.

If you're happy with all different kit, more power to you. I don't judge. But when it comes to explaining /why/ you have so much different stuff, methinks thou doth protest too much.

I used to have a pretty similar set of pictures and the same BS excuses.. Different handguns for different purposes, etc.

Now, I carry a P365XL with a P365 grip frame.

The P365XL, with the larger mag, handles my old agency qual course and still manages to carry better than a GLOCK 23, GLOCK 27 ever did and I can have a light and optic and still be pretty small.

With the flush mag, it gives me twice the round count of a J frame and better sights.

Either way, it has a great trigger and fantastic sights.

(The only other gun I carry is an LCP Max is a great "walk the dog" or "get milk" gun if I'm wearing a t-shirt/gym shorts and want to pocket carry.)

Since the challenge is to talk you into one, let's go down your list:

I see no need to spend $400-$500 on another carry pistol

Me either. I /do/ see some value in a single gun that replaces all my other guns, though.

Plus having to spend $50ea on magazines, SIG Sauer's Magazines are Very Overpriced IMO

Agree here too. I see them on the classified used for about $25, new on Osage and other sites for about $35. They're way overpriced at $50.

Currently carry either a M&P Shield or a Glock 43X, have many others but these are the size & weight that suit me best

Heart wants what the heart wants, but check out the dimensions on Handgun Hero and pick one up; the Sig feels better to me in every way.

Grab the Glock 43X the most as it has Ameriglo Night Sights but have a few extra Holsters for the Shield because I've had it longer

Sounds like you've got some stuff for each platform, but not all of what you need for any one of them. I simplified my life by having one platform, one set of holsters. The P365 will give you night sights, good capacity, and the choice of a flush concealment mag OR an extended mag, so it replaces having two different setups.

I like the full grip I can get with the Glock 43X & The Shield with its extended magazine & know that SIG offers one too

Sounds like the P365XL is your jam here.

I have six magazines for the Shield & four for the Glock but never carry spares as I might as well just carry two of the same pistol

Carrying a spare is a good idea, regardless of platforms, so this is a non-starter.

If ammo capacity was my thing I would just buy a Shield Arms S15 Magazine for the Glock 43X for about the same price as SIG Sauer's Overpriced magazines

And the metal mag release, because they chew through the polymer mag release. I kind of like an OEM solution myself. Again, non-starter here. Mags are $25-35 all day long for the P365.

I'm not paying $100 for two magazines or I would have extras for My P320

I'm hearing that you would rather have 6 Shield mags, 4 GLOCK mags, some Shield Arms aftermarket mags, and extra P320 mags on top of USP, P2000SK, M&P Compact, and speedloaders from your other guns.

There's a reason you have a couple "carry" guns in the mix. All of them are a compromise in some way, no real "all-around" gun that I can see.

P365XL can fix that for you.

I like the way that the P365 feels, but I opted for the Springfield Hellcat instead. I love it. It's accurate and 100% reliable so far. No issues.

These double-stack micros are odd, though. For the weight, I'd almost rather pack a double-stack Glock, ya know?

All I can say is that I had the S&W Shield Plus, the Hellcat, and the 365 all together on the counter and bought the 365. It just felt better in the hand. Turns out I have zero use for it but there you go.

Convinced??

Still have my two P365 but now carry either CZ RAMI or P938 depending upon conditions. Most of the time though is P226. I also am for a single manual of arms for carry

Personally for me the P365 in any of its forms is not one of those guns that someone should buy "just to have". It's a design that fills a specific role, specifically everyday conceal carry. Sure you could buy one just to see what the fuss is all about. But at any range worth its while you can just as easily rent one and go from there. Then there's no need for anyone other than yourself--the only op/ed that matters, btw--to convince both sides of your noggin that you should buy it...or take a pass.

I vote for the shield plus. I compared it to a 365 side by side and it wasn’t even close for me. And after I put an Apext sear and spring kit in it the thing is just perfect. 13+1 and the mags are 34 bucks last time I picked one up.