Tysons Corner 226 Nickel two tone 1986

July 07, 2022, 05:06 PM

Tarheelfan84

Personally I would use the fact that it does not have the matching box as a bargaining point to see if they would consider taking less than the listed asking price. I would ask to disassemble it and inspect the wear on the rails as well as the barrel. Does it come with any magazines ? I believe some of the “Tysons corner” P226’s had the mud rails. If your looking for a shooter, I would pass on this one and look for a newer P226 without the mud rails.

July 07, 2022, 05:11 PM

Ronin101

I think 1 or 2 mags. and good point about the wear. I will have to look at in person

July 07, 2022, 05:20 PM

Tarheelfan84

Regarding the mud rails, I believe SIG moved away from the design sometime in 1987 because of the weakened frame rail area, it was reported that they were prone to cracking. If your allowed to take it apart, look for 3 separate cutout areas along different areas of the frame rails. Top frame rail, the actual rail channel, and lower frame rail will all have these cutouts if it’s a frame with the mud rail cuts.

July 07, 2022, 05:52 PM

NMDave

quote:
Originally posted by Tarheelfan84:
Personally I would use the fact that it does not have the matching box as a bargaining point to see if they would consider taking less than the listed asking price. I would ask to disassemble it and inspect the wear on the rails as well as the barrel. Does it come with any magazines ? I believe some of the “Tysons corner” P226’s had the mud rails. If your looking for a shooter, I would pass on this one and look for a newer P226 without the mud rails.

I agree with everything TarHeel points out and will add… Or older as the “mud rail” issue is only with a fairly narrow vintage. Others can likely tell you from SN U XXX XXX through U XXX XXX could be problematic but I understand the earlier SNs are NOT impacted. Personally, I would not consider a nickel plated one without a hands-on inspection. I have seen a few that looked great at a distance but when you look close… hairline cracks in the finish and one that was so bad, the owner polished the nickel off the slide and polished the stainless slide that would fool you without a close examination.

July 07, 2022, 09:48 PM

12131

It's a used gun, with 1 mag, mud rails and no original stuff. So, the Nickel plated slide is totally meaningless, because you have no way of confirming the originality. Plus, "nice shape" means very little, without any pics. Taken all that into account, it's a nothing special gun and easily a hard pass at the asking price. Collectors value, it has none. Want a shooter? Buy something else built for more endurance.

July 07, 2022, 10:31 PM

Ronin101

Thanks for the responses.. i think i can identify the mud rails.. when did they stop using the mud rail design . I wiil check it out and take pics. Thanks for weighing in 12131. I know you are a SME. He states he knows it is factory because it js identical too his 228!

July 07, 2022, 11:34 PM

iron chef

Q has an excellent explanation of mud rails in the following thread:

https://sigforum.com/eve/forum...0601935/m/1430067294

July 08, 2022, 04:47 AM

12131

quote:
Originally posted by Ronin101:
...He states he knows it is factory because it js identical too his 228!

Lol. Failed! Obviously, he never realized that a 1986 factory Ni plated SIG, which was plated by SIG in W. Germany, is not supposed to be identical to a factory Ni plated P228, which was plated by Klein (for SIG NH) in Erie, PA.

The "I know it's factory finish because so and so" that many sellers claim, when they don't have confirmation, always makes me laugh.

July 08, 2022, 05:31 AM

nhracecraft

quote:
Originally posted by Ronin101:
Thanks for the responses.. i think i can identify the mud rails.. when did they stop using the mud rail design...He states he knows it is factory because it is identical too his 228!

The approx. SN Range for 'Mud Rails' is generally accepted as U135XXX through U157XXX. Regardless, you'll know 'em when you see 'em...

Regarding the 'Nickel Slide', unless it has the original SN matching box with 'NICKEL' stamped on the SN label, it is completely unverifiable. There is NO way to know otherwise. At best is just a nice P226, if that is indeed what it is...

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July 08, 2022, 11:53 AM

12131

quote:
Originally posted nhracecraft:
Regarding the 'Nickel Slide', unless it has the original SN matching box with 'NICKEL' stamped on the SN label, it is completely unverifiable. There is NO way to know otherwise...

That applies to the Klein plated SIGs. With the West German plated SIGs, it would be either "EL" or "EN" (for Electroless Nickel) that is integral to the computer printout label. But either way, seller here is just wishing.

July 08, 2022, 02:45 PM

Ronin101

it is u147 so mud rails then. waiting to hear what year the 228 is

July 08, 2022, 03:46 PM

Ronin101

the 228 was a KB or KC but the point is moot as he says that it is not for sale.

July 13, 2022, 07:25 PM

Broadside

quote:
Originally posted by Ronin101:
It looks to be in really nice shape. matching numbers. Is it worth 1050.00 ? Comes with an incorrect sig box.

I would ask yourself the question what else can you get for $1,050.

I'm just giving a personal opinion, so feel free to ignore it, but I just don't see the value in the class Sig P-series pistols at the current asking prices.

I don't know. I guess it's me. But I remember in the early 2000's when you could buy L.E. trade-in P226's with one 15 round magazine for $350 out of Shotgun News.

Edit: Just another way I try to look at value of handguns for something that is not a collector's piece. I think you can get a Glock 17 for around $550 right now, give or take. How do you justify the additional $500 in price (a 91% markup) over a Glock 17?

Now maybe you absolutely had Glocks, so that would do it. This is just a way I try to evaluate prices on handguns

July 14, 2022, 05:05 PM

Ronin101

quote:
Originally posted by Broadside:
quote:
Originally posted by Ronin101:
It looks to be in really nice shape. matching numbers. Is it worth 1050.00 ? Comes with an incorrect sig box.

I would ask yourself the question what else can you get for $1,050.

I'm just giving a personal opinion, so feel free to ignore it, but I just don't see the value in the class Sig P-series pistols at the current asking prices.

I don't know. I guess it's me. But I remember in the early 2000's when you could buy L.E. trade-in P226's with one 15 round magazine for $350 out of Shotgun News.

Edit: Just another way I try to look at value of handguns for something that is not a collector's piece. I think you can get a Glock 17 for around $550 right now, give or take. How do you justify the additional $500 in price (a 91% markup) over a Glock 17?

Now maybe you absolutely had Glocks, so that would do it. This is just a way I try to evaluate prices on handguns

I agree. I want a steel henry in 357 and a springfield arms ronin in 10mm. Both are under a thousand and both have been out of stock for the last 18 months. If the 226 was early to mid nities with a few extras I would buy it but as a shooter it doesnt check the boxes!!!