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Originally posted by 3/4Flap:
So...

I'm curious about the "X" grip.

1} Anyone have experience w/ it? What's it like compared to the regular stock grip?

2} I have a 9mm Fullsize P320. I want a grip that takes normal 17/21 shot mags in "Small" size. Which "X" would work?

I'm a bit confused by the offerings.

Anyone help me out here?

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:

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Originally posted by 3/4Flap:
So...

I'm curious about the "X" grip.

1} Anyone have experience w/ it? What's it like compared to the regular stock grip?

2} I have a 9mm Fullsize P320. I want a grip that takes normal 17/21 shot mags in "Small" size. Which "X" would work?

I'm a bit confused by the offerings.

Anyone help me out here?

The x-grip is ergonomic. It's a nice improvement. Just recently, Wilson has come up with a hybrid grip of their own which is a really nice blend of the old style grip and an x-grip with some subtle changes that really work.

The x-grip has a space for a tungsten weight in the mag well that will add three ounces or so. You can also buy the TXG version, which is about sixteen ounces and makes your pistol feel like it's got a steel frame (less recoil).

The x-frame comes in FS (full size), Carry, and compact sizes. The full size and carry use 17 round magazines, and the compact uses 15 round magazines.

If you have a full size slide, you can use the full-size x-grip module, or the carry module. The difference is the length of the dust cover. The actual hand grip is the same length, and both will work on your full size slide. The carry version leaves some of the slide dust cover exposed, and the full size covers the slide dust cover entirely, with the grip module dust cover, and gives the pistol a more squared-off muzzle appearance.

You can also get textured x-grip modules from Grayguns; these are laser textured with a fish-scale appearance which is an improvement in the grippiness, but not so much as to interfere with clothing when carrying concealed. They also feel to me like a bit of reduction in the edges near the web of the thumb and forefighter, allowing an improved grip on the pistol.

As far as size goes, medium or small refers only to the girth in your hand; the length of the hand grip and the dust cover remain the same. A small grip is just smaller around the grip itself, or in other words, more accommodating to smaller hands.

With the x-grip module, be aware that if you have older style magazine baseplates with the round peg in the bottom, then you'll need to modify the baseplate to fit the x-grip module. It's simple to do; remove the baseplate and use some nippers to clip off the "dog ears" on the baseplate. You can sand them flat if you wish; on mine I simply clipped them off. If you have the newer style mag with the square peg, then your mag will fit the x-grip without difficulty.

If you go with a different baseplate like the Taran Tactical, then it won't matter, as those will fit either frame. If you plan on dropping the mags a lot, especially on cement, then a more robust baseplate is a good idea, over the factory plastic (which does take a beating).

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:

The x-grip has a space for a tungsten weight in the mag well that will add three ounces or so. You can also buy the TXG version, which is about sixteen ounces and makes your pistol feel like it's got a steel frame (less recoil).

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Originally posted by 3/4Flap:

Thank you very much for all the answers.

All my mags are round-peg mags. I guess I do not understand why the grip module would be designed around the different mag baseplate? Is there some improvement in the baseplate that warranted that change?

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Originally posted by Beanhead:


To clarify, the X compact does not allow for the weight to be added. Not a deal breaker but you should know that if you plan on adding such weight.

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:

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Originally posted by 3/4Flap:

Thank you very much for all the answers.

All my mags are round-peg mags. I guess I do not understand why the grip module would be designed around the different mag baseplate? Is there some improvement in the baseplate that warranted that change?

The original grip module had cut-outs on the side, with which the dog-ears on the mag baseplates dovetail. The x-grip module does not have those cut-outs; the bottom is slightly beveled; I suspect it was done that way to decrease the possibility of the mag hanging up in the mag well when doing a mag change. With the x-grip, the mag well rim is continuous, rather than interrupted by the cut-outs.

It's clear that the original cut-outs were there as a means of manually extracting the mag by pinching it on each side. It may be that because the P320 mag drops free without a hitch, those cut-outs were unnecessary. I can't speak to the designers intent as I wasn't there, but that's the way it appears to me.

The dog ears are easily removed. I bought some mags not long ago from a member here, who did a very nice job simply beveling the dog ears and thinning them. For me, that was too much work, and I just clipped them off.

The new wilson frame is the same way; new style mags work fine, the older style, with the thick dog ears, do not; remove the dog ears and all problems are solved. Alternately, one can buy newer baseplates and inserts, but it's easier, and less expensive, just to cut the dog ears off.

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Originally posted by Beanhead:


To clarify, the X compact does not allow for the weight to be added. Not a deal breaker but you should know that if you plan on adding such weight.

It does, actually, just not the larger factory tungsten weight. The compact grip has grooves in the rear of the mag well which are rounded to take tungsten rod inserts; welding tungsten electrodes of 1/8 and 1/4 diameter will work. Same with the Wilson frames.

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Originally posted by DirectDrive:
I've been through this myself and with a shooting buddy.
Shooting buddy has small hands and the P320F with Medium grip (which you have) was too large.
His solution was to ditch the issued Medium grip and get a "Full Size Small" grip module for $35.

I have the same P320F pistol.
I went with the X-Five grip module with magwell funnel and grip weight.
It is Medium size, I have XL mitts and fits perfectly.
It would not be a good grip module for someone with smaller hands.

If you drop down in size from Full Size, maybe to find an X-grip, you will have some of the "guide rod tunnel" showing.
In other words, the dust cover or rail (part of the grip) will not be full length with the slide like you have now.
Personally, I don't like that short dust cover look, but many people don't mind.

So in summary, your easiest solution is to get a Full Size grip module in Small size.
It's fairly easy to find that one in stock.

ETA:
People with smaller hands like the Wilson.
They have a nice appearance with the Wilson "Starburst" grip AND they are available in Full Size.
https://shopwilsoncombat.com/G...productinfo/320-FSB/
At $65 it is a great deal for a custom grip module.

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Originally posted by 3/4Flap:

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Originally posted by DirectDrive:
I've been through this myself and with a shooting buddy.
Shooting buddy has small hands and the P320F with Medium grip (which you have) was too large.
His solution was to ditch the issued Medium grip and get a "Full Size Small" grip module for $35.

I have the same P320F pistol.
I went with the X-Five grip module with magwell funnel and grip weight.
It is Medium size, I have XL mitts and fits perfectly.
It would not be a good grip module for someone with smaller hands.

If you drop down in size from Full Size, maybe to find an X-grip, you will have some of the "guide rod tunnel" showing.
In other words, the dust cover or rail (part of the grip) will not be full length with the slide like you have now.
Personally, I don't like that short dust cover look, but many people don't mind.

So in summary, your easiest solution is to get a Full Size grip module in Small size.
It's fairly easy to find that one in stock.

ETA:
People with smaller hands like the Wilson.
They have a nice appearance with the Wilson "Starburst" grip AND they are available in Full Size.
https://shopwilsoncombat.com/G...productinfo/320-FSB/
At $65 it is a great deal for a custom grip module.

Thanks. Good info.

I've got a FS Small grip now on the pistol. {Pic from a while back below}. I don't prefer the rounded sides and got to looking at the more slab-sided X grip.

I think, like you, I'd prefer a FS, full-length dustcover. But it doesn't look like they make one in the right size, or at least I haven't found one.

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Originally posted by DirectDrive:
SIG magazine update...
https://osagecountyguns.com/bl...floor-plate-updates/

If you want to keep your round peg basepads, you can whittle on them to fit the newer grip modules.

Even my Gen 2 "square peg" mags would not lock into my X-Five grip with magwell funnel.
I swapped in the excellent Gray Guns basepads.

The P320 17rd mag secret is here :
http://gregcotellc.com/cart/si...-rd-3209-p-2047.html
These are reported to lock into an X-grip with no trimming.

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Originally posted by DirectDrive:

The P320 17rd mag secret is here :
http://gregcotellc.com/cart/si...-rd-3209-p-2047.html
These are reported to lock into an X-grip with no trimming.

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Originally posted by DirectDrive:
If you drop down in size from Full Size, maybe to find an X-grip, you will have some of the "guide rod tunnel" showing.
In other words, the dust cover or rail (part of the grip) will not be full length with the slide like you have now.
Personally, I don't like that short dust cover look, but many people don't mind.

Might look something like this ...

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Originally posted by BuddyChryst:
Last I heard, they were only making the X-series in medium girth. Which sucks, cuz the X seems slimmer than the regular, and I need larger.