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Owning Redundant Platforms

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November 15, 2022, 10:28 PM
pedropcola
Owning Redundant Platforms
When I really like something I buy spares. This has resulted in me looking like a collector, but I am not. I just buy what I like, the problem is I have been known to have a wandering eye when it comes to guns. I have had a glock phase, a 320 phase, beretta phase, cz phase, etc.

If you asked me today I could confidently tell you I could perform all my centerfire tasks with the Sig 365 platform and the HK P30 V1 platform. Next year I might say something different. As I get older though I think these 2 choices will stick. They literally fill every need I have. If selling guns wasn't such a pain in the ass I might get rid of some. It's easier to wait for my family to age enough to give them away to good homes.
November 16, 2022, 09:01 PM
AUTiger89
I practice redundancy a little differently - my goal is to have multiple firearms in the major calibers, both handgun and long - .22lr, .380, 9mm, .357SIG, .38/.357 Magnum, .40, .45, 10mm, .223/5.56, 7.62x39, .308, and 12ga. That way, when there may be ammo shortages, I have other options available to me.

And sprinkle a few more in as they interest me.




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November 16, 2022, 09:35 PM
Conserve Liberty
Redundancy sort of happened. In general I have acquired combat handguns and long guns based on actual historical military and Agency selections.

Naturally there is platform overlap, but most of it is category overlap that becomes redundant platforms.

And impulse purchases such as AXG Scorpion.


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November 16, 2022, 09:53 PM
Kskelton
I don't think you're going to get anybody that thinks you're crazy for having redundant guns. I have 5 smith j-frame revolvers in my nightstand. My thought process is if 5 rounds doesn't do the job I don't need to reload I just grab another one (stupid reasoning, but it was my justification for buying j-frame revolvers because I think they're cool)


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November 17, 2022, 08:28 AM
pedropcola
You have 5 J frames in your nightstand? That might be redundant. lol
November 17, 2022, 08:49 AM
Kskelton
quote:
Originally posted by pedropcola:
You have 5 J frames in your nightstand? That might be redundant. lol



They are all different models 360, 340Pd, 642, 442, 638… seemed like a good idea Roll Eyes


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November 17, 2022, 10:12 AM
Ryanp225
Redundancy of one pistol or brand makes a bit more sense to me from a pragmatic point of view as explained by jljones and stormin on the previous page.
What I struggle with is having pistols like a Glock G45, M&P 9, and a Sig P320 Carry together in your collection. They basically are all the same pistol, right? They all have 17+1 capacity, 4" bbls or close to it, dimensions are almost identical, etc.
Other than just wanting to have variety it seems to me to be the most sensible to choose one brand to invest training and support into.
November 17, 2022, 10:20 AM
elberettas
quote:
Originally posted by Ryanp225:
Redundancy of one pistol or brand makes a bit more sense to me from a pragmatic point of view as explained by jljones and stormin on the previous page.
What I struggle with is having pistols like a Glock G45, M&P 9, and a Sig P320 Carry together in your collection. They basically are all the same pistol, right? They all have 17+1 capacity, 4" bbls or close to it, dimensions are almost identical, etc.
Other than just wanting to have variety it seems to me to be the most sensible to choose one brand to invest training and support into.


I agree. My favorite full size 9mm pistols are the Beretta M9, Browning Hi Power and SIG Sauer P226. But I'd rather own three P226's, than one of each. I know that may seem crazy to some.
November 21, 2022, 04:42 PM
Weshowe
Gents,

Nothing wrong with having redundant platforms, if you can afford it. I have them in 1911's, SIGS, Beretta's. It's nice to have a back up, in case your primary goes down, or if involved in a shooting, your weapon winds up in evidence.

I'll have to work on getting another CZ... Wink

Wes
November 23, 2022, 11:38 AM
fritz
quote:
Originally posted by jljones:
These days, I carry one day in and day out. I have a back up just like it handy and a rifle. And I shoot the crap out of them. When they break, I buy a replacement.

I’ve really stopped buying guns, and started training more with what I’ve got.

I commend those who train enough to wear out firearms, or at least the commonly-worn parts such as springs and barrels. It's a dedication to perfecting the craft of shooting, rather than one of accumulating things.

In my experience, most shooters put maybe only 1k rounds through any given firearm before they move on to something newer. New purchases are often self-justified by the hackneyed "one is none and two is one" statement. Those who own, use, and properly maintain quality firearms know that they are reliable and that they last for a long time.
November 23, 2022, 12:10 PM
jljones
^^^^^^
Yep




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November 23, 2022, 01:26 PM
pedropcola
Funny thing is I pick up a gun I have basically moved away from, 320, and dry fire it a bit and wonder why I moved off of it. There are so many good choices nowadays that we are spoiled.
November 23, 2022, 05:49 PM
jljones
I keep a journal with data in it. When I ask similar questions about old flames, I consult the data in the journal and it tells me why we are no longer a thing.

I have a handful of metrics that I judge my performance by. And I keep records of it over time. Metrics include points, score, hit factor and general performance issues that piss me off.




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November 24, 2022, 07:36 AM
pedropcola
That sounds like a lot of work. Lol. I can’t even keep round counts. I love when guys bring out their notepad and say they have shot 6427 rounds through this gun. I’m like, I think I bought this gun 5 years ago. Maybe.
November 24, 2022, 08:35 AM
jljones
Work is saying “I wonder what the difference is between a 320c and a Gen3 19” and going to the range and shooting them head to head for the 13th time because you can’t remember how it turned out the last dozen times.

So I write down what I learn. But, I don’t track round counts. Just performance stuff and averages.




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November 24, 2022, 08:47 AM
MikeGLI
I'm not sure about my platforms being redundant, but I'm getting rid of things that I dont shoot in favor of more ammo and training. I started shooting steel and USPSA casually this year and that's changed my perspective or I'm just getting older. When I open the safe, I see shit that I have no real use for anymore, and no longer have the desire to keep it.

Buy what you want, keep what you want.




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November 24, 2022, 08:54 AM
cslinger
I’ve been through phases over the years like has been mentioned above but honestly I generally vacillate between Glock and HK but always seem to come back to my HKs. While I like the simplicity of Glocks I just always end up back with HK due to the manual of arms (paddle mag release, larger controls, feel and I am just more comfortable at heart with a traditional DA/SA platform.)


Take Care, Shoot Safe,
Chris
November 24, 2022, 09:12 AM
pedropcola
I do love paddle mag releases. My first one was a Walther P99. What a very smart design. I always thought if Glock had come up with it we would all be shooting Glock P99's.

Guns aren't work for me so the idea of putting 2 guns head to head as "work" is foreign to me. It's all a hobby to me. A very useful hobby but a hobby nonetheless.
November 24, 2022, 11:24 AM
cslinger
P99 was my paddle intro as well and it was like a revolution to me. I am not saying paddles are superior PERIOD but they are superior for me. Not that I can’t run traditional buttons or what not but the paddle is just natural for for me.

Side note the P99 was/is an AMAZING pistol. I know I am in the minority but I would have loved to see a few more trips into DA/SA striker territory.


Take Care, Shoot Safe,
Chris
November 24, 2022, 08:25 PM
pedropcola
The P99 concept is brilliant. Striker short trigger when you want, normal DA when you don’t. I think the paddle is superior. I’ve seen too many police videos where a stress grip and bad form cause a mag drop. I can’t imagine how that could happen with a paddle. The multiple ways to actuate it also are a plus. I also think if Glock had a paddle we would all be bigger fans.